Julie sits down with Mallory Ervin to talk about her new book, "Living Fully"(https://malloryervin.com/living-fully-book). Julie and Mallory discuss why it's important to go through hard times and why people in today's society suffer when they avoid pain. Mallory talks about the hardships she endured including substance abuse problems and loss in the family and how accepting adversity is a part of the human experience.

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