Key Conversation Points:

• Last week's episode is here if you’d like to listen to that first as Lisa-Jo and Christie continue to delve through the meaning of hope. 
• What conversation did Lisa-Jo and Christie have that started 14 years ago about a small God? 
• Is the Storyteller feeling sketchy to you too sometimes? 
• You’re allowed to wail and ask questions to God through suffering.  Jesus was  "acquainted with grief," just like us. Suffering isn't a sign of failure.  
• Sometimes you need a friend to hold the rope of hope, when we've lost all strength.
• God doesn't say "I can't use her because she's in the fetal position."
• Rom 5:3-5: "Suffering produces perseverance; perseverance, character; and character hope. And hope does not put us to shame because God's love has been poured out..."

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