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Is EMDR therapy legitimate science or pseudoscientific sham? In this provocative debate, Dr. Roger McFillin challenges Taraleigh Stemler, a certified EMDR practitioner and licensed marriage and family therapist (LMFT), on whether the popular trauma treatment's signature eye movements and bilateral stimulation offer any real benefit, or if exposure therapy—simply facing painful memories—is doing all the heavy lifting. As both clinicians clash over research validity, the "medicalization" of normal emotions, and whether we've created a therapy-dependent culture, this raw conversation exposes the tribal warfare happening within mental health treatment that directly impacts which therapies patients receive.
Chapters
00:00 The Wild West of Psychotherapy
06:01 The EMDR Process Explained
12:03 Challenging the Efficacy of EMDR
18:10 Post-Traumatic Growth: A Different Perspective
23:58 Critique of EMDR's Application
30:01 Comparing EMDR to Other Treatments
38:56 Therapeutic Approaches: EMDR vs. Traditional Methods
46:58 Bilateral Stimulation: A Controversial Tool
55:06 Client Experiences and Observations
01:01:54 The Scope of EMDR: A One-Size-Fits-All Solution?
01:07:04 The Need for Research and Evidence in Therapy
01:15:21 Research and Effectiveness of EMDR
01:23:03 The Importance of Therapeutic Relationships
01:29:55 The Power of Courage in Therapy
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By Roger K. McFillin, Psy.D., ABPP4.8
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Is EMDR therapy legitimate science or pseudoscientific sham? In this provocative debate, Dr. Roger McFillin challenges Taraleigh Stemler, a certified EMDR practitioner and licensed marriage and family therapist (LMFT), on whether the popular trauma treatment's signature eye movements and bilateral stimulation offer any real benefit, or if exposure therapy—simply facing painful memories—is doing all the heavy lifting. As both clinicians clash over research validity, the "medicalization" of normal emotions, and whether we've created a therapy-dependent culture, this raw conversation exposes the tribal warfare happening within mental health treatment that directly impacts which therapies patients receive.
Chapters
00:00 The Wild West of Psychotherapy
06:01 The EMDR Process Explained
12:03 Challenging the Efficacy of EMDR
18:10 Post-Traumatic Growth: A Different Perspective
23:58 Critique of EMDR's Application
30:01 Comparing EMDR to Other Treatments
38:56 Therapeutic Approaches: EMDR vs. Traditional Methods
46:58 Bilateral Stimulation: A Controversial Tool
55:06 Client Experiences and Observations
01:01:54 The Scope of EMDR: A One-Size-Fits-All Solution?
01:07:04 The Need for Research and Evidence in Therapy
01:15:21 Research and Effectiveness of EMDR
01:23:03 The Importance of Therapeutic Relationships
01:29:55 The Power of Courage in Therapy
Visit Center for Integrated Behavioral Health
Dr. Roger McFillin / Radically Genuine Website
YouTube @RadicallyGenuine
Dr. Roger McFillin (@DrMcFillin) / X
Substack | Radically Genuine | Dr. Roger McFillin
Instagram @radicallygenuine
Contact Radically Genuine
Conscious Clinician Collective
PLEASE SUPPORT OUR PARTNERS
15% Off Pure Spectrum CBD (Code: RadicallyGenuine)
10% off Lovetuner click here

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