In this episode, I speak with Dr Yelena Chorny about the challenges in healthcare, focusing on burnout, leadership during the pandemic, and the importance of personal growth. Yelena shares her journey from addiction medicine leadership to seeking new opportunities, touching on the emotional complexities of career transitions and the need for systemic change. We discuss the books that shaped her thinking on personal growth and decision-making, and she introduces the concept of 'urgent optimism' as a mindset for navigating change. Yelena encourages listeners to embrace change and recognize that wanting something different is necessary for growth.

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