In this thrilling, stunning, amazing new episode of Not Without My Sister, we're talking all about birth: the how of it, the why of it and the never-again of it, with actual examples from four real-life birth experiences from Beatrice, while Rosemary speculates wildly, sharing her bizarre theories related to C sections and maternity leave.

The book Beatrice references (which, FYI, she does not recommend) is Gina Ford's The Contented Baby Book – buy it at your peril (but please use our affiliate link)

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Not Without My Sister is presented by sisters Beatrice Mac Cabe and Rosemary Mac Cabe, in Fort Wayne, Indiana. Our producer is Liam Geraghty. Sound editing and original music by Don Kirkland. Original illustration by Lindsay Neilson. Not Without My Sister is a member of The Warren, the home of great Irish podcasts.

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