Natalia welcomes producer and not a dudebro Matthew Ian Fleming to talk about deconstruction and reconstruction and that large messy space in between the two. 

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Links: 

Jesus and John Wayne: https://wwnorton.com/books/9781631495731  

Church Anew Article about GenZ: https://churchanew.org/blog/posts/josh-packard-faith-like-a-spiral 

Natalia and Nora’s Alter Guild Episode: https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-f6pgy-93a457