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Nancy and Sarah are joined by the Great Mike Pesca, one-time Jeopardy! contestant and host of news podcast The Gist, to talk about dudes and dude-related topics. They discuss men’s-only spaces and whether women’s workout wear has become hyper-sexualized (and is that a bad thing?). They also break down Gavin Newsom’s podcast debut with his guest, conservative firebrand Charlie Kirk. Good idea? Dangerous idea? It’s always a good time when Pesca visits the Smoke ‘Em pod.

Also discussed:

* In this house, we believe in peanut butter

* Booo, Daylight Savings Time

* A Pesca discourse on the copper content of pre- and post-1982 pennies

* Lady Gaga on Saturday Night Live

* High school Sarah had a crush on Mike Myers!

* What Lululemon did to women — and men

* Nancy does not like to see men without their shirts on!

* Curves is the Jenny Craig of gyms

* Why does a man buy a woman a steak?

* Sarah is the whore of Babylon Williamsburg

* Murder podcasts should not be snack food

* The RFK Salon story that had to be retracted

* Why do men dominate the podcast space?

* Theories on Chris Hayes

* Parker Posey’s Lorazepam accent

* Sadness and horror over Gene Hackman’s death

Plus, why Sarah said no to Megyn Kelly, the time Pesca thought Lady Gaga was a drag queen, a PSA to take care of your olds, and much more!

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