When Ivan Cleary presented his son The Clive Churchill medal, moments after the heart-stopping 2021 grand final win against the South Sydney Rabbitohs, the crowd's loud cheers faded into the background. 

It was a surreal moment for the Penrith Panthers coach, who, just a year ago, was recovering from their premiership loss against Melbourne Storm. 

And it was a surreal moment for the Penrith faithful back home at the foot of the mountain in Western Sydney.

Ivan and Mark talk about shifting the narrative from a 2019 huge loss to bringing home a win for Western Sydney and the father/coach relationship dynamic with his son Nathan.

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