The Pro Organizer Studio Podcast

200 | "Creating a life that you don't regularly need to escape from." | Tami Hackbarth on how to help yourself AND your clients at home


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The record-screech moment in this podcast is in the title: The definition of self-care is "creating a life that you don't regularly need to escape from." My guest Tami Hackbarth is back to drop some knowledge bombs for our home life and that can help your organizing clients live better as well. Today we are talking about a fabulous resource called Fair Play--and I am excited to have you have this for yourselves and for clients. It works for all types of family systems and structures and I am hopeful it will help lots of people live better. In part 2 of my discussion with Tami, we get into a range of topics from the often-overlooked reasons behind relationship breakdowns, such as the failure to share household responsibilities, to the broader implications of self-care. We talk about 'weaponized incompetence,' generational shifts in domestic roles, and how maintaining a functional, rather than perfect, home can contribute to better relationships. The conversation weaves through the impact of childhood responsibilities on adult capabilities, co-parenting challenges, and practical steps for teaching children essential life skills. The episode emphasizes the importance of creating a life that doesn't necessitate escape and the value of communal support in achieving balanced and equitable family dynamics. 00:00 The Clickbait Headline That Changed Everything 00:22 The Reality of Unheard Conversations 01:46 Generational Shifts in Household Responsibilities 05:42 Teaching Kids Independence 16:47 The Importance of Self-Compassion 26:42 Embracing Flexibility in Home Organization 27:14 The Unrealistic Expectations of Organizing Social Media 27:57 Prioritizing Function Over Perfection 30:20 Fair Play for Non-Traditional Families 31:51 Breaking Down Fair Play: Conception, Planning, Execution 33:55 The Importance of Communication in Fair Play 37:29 Building a Family Success Team 41:07 Self-Care for Solopreneurs and Organizers 47:25 The Essential Guide to Guilt-Free Self-Care 52:18 The Power of Asking for Help 53:49 Conclusion and Future Conversations LINKS FOR LISTENERS Connect with Tami: tamihackbarth.com Connect with Melissa: proorganizerstudio.com
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