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Nancy and Sarah debate a Modern Love column called, “Men, Where Have You Gone? Please Come Back.” Nancy is gagging. Sarah thinks it’s an imperfect swing in the right direction. Who will reign supreme? Eh, they both have a point. Also, the girls go deep on Karen Read, blackouts and causes celebre.

Also discussed:

* Nancy’s new nickname: Maidenform!

* New York, a socialist utopia?

* Be a YouTube subscriber, either because or despite our promise to only wear bras

* The Hepola trifecta: cops, excessive drinking, and blackouts

* Karen Read: Where to begin?

* No, really: Blackouts, blackouts, blackouts!!

* The defense lawyers are experts in… Kevin Spacey?!

* More people need jobs

* Are men “hiding” — if so, from what?

* Sarah gets rant-y about dating apps

* Nancy gets rant-y about female whining

* A male listener’s fraught text exchange with a woman

* “What is your role in this?”

* When heading to possible war, learn about previous wars

* William Langewiesche, revisited

* Osama bin Laden was a rich kid