Grit

#215 COO Rippling Matt MacInnis: Learn the Engine


Listen Later

Guest: Matt MacInnis, COO of Rippling

One of the most important things a non-founder can do, says Rippling COO Matt MacInnis, is to learn how to operate in the context of the company they’re joining. His CEO, Parker Conrad, “spikes” in certain skill areas, and the rest of the executive team needs to maximize his ability to thrive while “taking care of the rest of it.” Matt likened the work to being a hobbyist airplane pilot, who can’t get a license without knowing all the minute details about their plane’s engine and aerodynamics. 

“You can’t be a good pilot if you don’t understand the engine, because if something goes wrong, you want to be able to troubleshoot it,” he says. “An executive coming in to fly your airplane better learn the engine.”


Chapters:

  • (01:08) - Telling Rippling’s story
  • (04:27) - Founding & failing at Inkling
  • (09:30) - Different types of hard
  • (13:55) - Discipline and stamina
  • (15:22) - Meeting with Steve Jobs
  • (19:20) - Definitely, give up!
  • (22:29) - Product-market fit
  • (27:15) - Founders and culture
  • (33:24) - Executive instincts
  • (36:06) - Talent Signal and AI
  • (40:06) - 150 former founders
  • (44:08) - Zero to one projects
  • (48:06) - The failure of Silicon Valley Bank
  • (55:25) - Routines and discipline
  • (59:37) - Disagreeing with Parker
  • (01:02:25) - Who Rippling is hiring
  • (01:03:37) - What “grit” means to Matt

  • Mentioned in this episode: Parker Conrad, London Breed, Apple, Sequoia Capital, Sapphire Ventures, Tenaya Capital, digital textbooks on iPad, Oricom, Netscape, Peter Cho, Eddy Cue, John Couch, iBooks, Slack, Airbnb, Paul Graham, Brian Chesky, “founder mode,” Larry Ellison, Ivan Zhao and Notion, Intel and ARM, Salesforce, United Airlines, LLMs, GitHub, DocuCharm, Peter Thiel, Mamoon Hamid, Expensify, Navan, Costco, Comcast, HBO’s Silicon Valley, Jensen Huang and NVIDIA, and Taylor Swift.


    Links:

    Connect with Matt

    • LinkedIn
    • Twitter

    Connect with Joubin


    Learn more about Kleiner Perkins

    This episode was edited by Eric Johnson from LightningPod.fm

    ...more
    View all episodesView all episodes
    Download on the App Store

    GritBy Joubin Mirzadegan

    • 4.9
    • 4.9
    • 4.9
    • 4.9
    • 4.9

    4.9

    183 ratings


    More shows like Grit

    View all
    This Week in Startups by Jason Calacanis

    This Week in Startups

    1,281 Listeners

    a16z Podcast by Andreessen Horowitz

    a16z Podcast

    1,008 Listeners

    The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch by Harry Stebbings

    The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch

    525 Listeners

    The Official SaaStr Podcast: SaaS | Founders | Investors by SaaStr

    The Official SaaStr Podcast: SaaS | Founders | Investors

    179 Listeners

    Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy by Colossus | Investing & Business Podcasts

    Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy

    2,329 Listeners

    All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg by All-In Podcast, LLC

    All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

    8,385 Listeners

    Business Breakdowns by Colossus | Investing & Business Podcasts

    Business Breakdowns

    337 Listeners

    The Logan Bartlett Show by by Redpoint Ventures

    The Logan Bartlett Show

    189 Listeners

    Revenue Builders by Force Management

    Revenue Builders

    152 Listeners

    No Priors: Artificial Intelligence | Technology | Startups by Conviction

    No Priors: Artificial Intelligence | Technology | Startups

    106 Listeners

    The Social Radars by Jessica Livingston

    The Social Radars

    94 Listeners

    Crucible Moments by Sequoia Capital

    Crucible Moments

    88 Listeners

    BG2Pod with Brad Gerstner and Bill Gurley by BG2Pod

    BG2Pod with Brad Gerstner and Bill Gurley

    419 Listeners

    AI + a16z by a16z

    AI + a16z

    26 Listeners

    Training Data by Sequoia Capital

    Training Data

    31 Listeners