Rod and Karen are joined by political strategist and host of Sunday Civics L. Joy Williams to discuss staying civically engaged, political strategy while campaigning, social media effecting how we discuss politics, the embellishment of the voting gender divide in the Black community, vote shaming, Trump not conceding yet, Democratic in-fighting, Hillary Clinton, being president of an NAACP chapter, the pandemic effecting the economy and parents during the pandemic. 

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