This week on the podcast, Fi and Jane are joined by interiors guru Michelle Ogundehin, lead judge on BBC One's Interior Design Masters. The interiors guru, presenter and author gives Fi and Jane the lowdown on Interior Design Masters and working with the show's host Alan Carr. Michelle also hears Fi and Jane's home woes and answers some of their cushion questions. Before their guest joins them, Fi and Jane try to pin down exactly when halcyon days appear and they begin by thinking a bit about international events.

Interior Design Masters begins 9th March 2022 on BBC One at 9pm, continuing weekly on Wednesdays.

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