Bringing the Human back to Human Resources

229. Challenge Accepted: Confronting the Anti-DEI Argument feat. Yolanda Slan


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In this conversation, Traci Chernoff and Yolanda Slan delve into the critical topic of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DE&I). Yolanda shares her personal journey and passion for DE&I, stemming from her experiences as a woman of color with a hidden disability. They discuss the misconceptions surrounding DE&I, the importance of understanding diversity in a global context, and the role of bias in hiring practices. 


Traci and Yolanda emphasize the need to view individuals as unique rather than as part of a group, clarifying the distinction between DE&I and affirmative action, and expanding the definition of DE&I to include various aspects of identity and experience. Their discussion explores the difference between equity and equality, using relatable analogies to illustrate their points. They also stress on the importance of advocating for oneself while also recognizing the meritocracy in hiring practices. 


This topic challenges the misconceptions surrounding DE&I initiatives and highlights the need for organizations to focus on genuine inclusivity rather than superficial quotas. Their dialogue is filled with humor and insight, making this episode both informative and enjoyable that you wouldn’t want to miss it. 


Chapters

00:00 Introduction to DE&I and Yolanda's Background

02:20 Personal Journey and Passion for DE&I

04:48 Understanding Diversity in Global Contexts

06:44 Misconceptions About DE&I in Business

10:48 The Role of Bias in DE&I

12:50 Clarifying DE&I vs. Affirmative Action

15:20 The Importance of Individuality in DE&I

17:19 Expanding the Definition of DE&I

18:27 Equity and Inclusion in Practice

26:11 Finding the Right Image for DEI Conversations

27:39 Understanding Equity vs. Equality

30:00 Different Modes of Transportation: The Equity Analogy

32:30 Mind Your Business: Advocating for Yourself

34:51 Meritocracy in the Workplace

37:50 Challenging DEI Practices for Improvement


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About Our Guest: 

Yolanda Slan is Televerde’s Chief People Officer. She is an experienced human resources and employment leader with a record of success building and enhancing HR programs in both the private and non-profit sectors. She is passionate about diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI), and she has a deep understanding of talent management strategies which has enabled her to create a positive impact in all of her past positions.


Connect with Yolanda Slan here:

  • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/televerde?goback=%2Ecps_1237136210503_1 

  • Twitter: https://twitter.com/televerde 

  • Blog: http://www.televerde.com/blog/ 

  • Website: http://www.televerde.com/ 


  • Connect with Traci here: ⁠https://linktr.ee/HRTraci⁠


    Disclaimer: Thoughts, opinions, and statements made on this podcast are not a reflection of the thoughts, opinions, and statements of the Company by whom Traci Chernoff is actively employed.


    Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products or services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.

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