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#238 Paul Austin on Rethinking Growth: Can Psychedelics Unlock Your Potential—Legally?


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We’re joined by Paul Austin, CEO of Third Wave, who believes psychedelics can be powerful tools for transformation—when used responsibly. While these substances remain illegal in many places and are wrapped in ongoing medical and legal debates, Paul is on a mission to educate, not evangelize.

As your host, I keep this forum open to diverse voices, not to pass judgment but to spark critical thinking. We explore the myths and realities of psychedelics—how they might enhance mental clarity, creativity, and personal growth, while also addressing safety concerns, legal roadblocks, and the importance of responsible use.

Curious about how legalization and decriminalization efforts are unfolding globally? Check out this BBC article for a snapshot of what’s happening around the world.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

The Real Risks of Psychedelics: Safety First

“While psychedelics promise transformation, the biggest risk isn’t just physiological—it’s legal. These substances are still illegal in most places, so getting caught can have serious consequences. Beyond that, psychedelics can create instability if not handled with the right support and a safe environment.”

Mindset Matters: Intention in Psychedelic Use

“The real benefits of psychedelics start with intention. Using them to learn, grow, or heal can unlock deep insights, but if it’s just to escape reality, the impact is far less meaningful. For anyone interested, working with a professional—be it a coach, therapist, or shaman—is essential. Preparation and a safe setting are crucial for a transformative experience.”

The Five Elements for a Safe and Meaningful Psychedelic Journey

“There are five essential elements: assessment, preparation, facilitation, integration, and microdosing. From asking the right questions to committing fully to the experience, each step helps build a safe and transformative path. Start low, go slow, and choose to step into this journey for yourself—not for anyone else.”

Microdosing as a Catalyst, Not a Crutch

“Microdosing isn’t about masking problems; it’s about creating neuroplasticity for real change. With commitment—two to three times a week for 30 days—you can catalyze significant shifts in mood, decision-making, and self-awareness. But this journey, like any transformation, relies on intention and responsibility. Microdosing is a tool, but you hold the reins to lasting growth.”

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