Helen Hanison was a high-flying PR executive with a passport full of stamps, million-dollar campaigns, and a board-level title. But after 20 years in the industry, she found herself questioning everything. Motherhood collided with her career, success lost its sparkle, and the feeling of being “stuck-but-still-good-at-it” became suffocating.

In Part One of this two-part conversation, Helen shares the moment she realized her success was seducing her into staying in the wrong life. She opens up about the subtle signs of misalignment, the “lost years” between knowing something’s wrong and doing something about it, and how her pivot into psychology laid the groundwork for a new career—one that finally fits. If you’ve ever felt competent but not alive in your work, this one’s your mirror.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

When High Achievement Turns into Quiet Misery

“I was flying everywhere, leading campaigns—and I still felt hollow.”

Helen unpacks the disconnect between outer success and inner dissatisfaction, especially when you’re too good at a job that no longer excites you.

The Motherhood Collision

“I hadn’t seen it coming, but it hit hard.”

Becoming a mother didn’t just change her home life—it cracked open the illusion that her career and identity were truly aligned.

Good At It, But Dead Inside

“I wasn’t unhappy… just not lit up.”

Helen describes the in-between phase where nothing is obviously wrong, but everything feels subtly off—a quiet crisis that many professionals ignore for too long.

The Clues Were Always There

“I was coaching before I knew what coaching was.”

Helen reflects on how her leadership style—taking colleagues out for coffee, asking them what they wanted—was already pointing toward her next calling.

Seduced by Success, Trapped by Titles

“It’s a long way down when the ladder’s leaned against the wrong wall.”

She reveals why people get stuck in senior roles they don’t love, and how fear of the unknown keeps them climbing in the wrong direction.

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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Helen Hanison

Helen's website: https://www.helenhanison.com

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Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.

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>>>170,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<

Jean Zhou’s journey defies every linear career chart. 

After starting in accounting and dabbling in venture capital, she found herself chasing something spreadsheets couldn’t capture—emotion. That led to Wind Entertainment, a bold bet on storytelling rooted in sociology, psychology, and a lifelong obsession with television. In this episode, Jean reveals the early frustrations that sparked her producer dreams, why she believes storytelling is a survival skill, and how her sociology background became the secret sauce to building character-driven dramas that resonate worldwide. 

This is the story of how data met drama—and lost.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

How Bedtime Curfews Sparked a Creative Fire

“Growing up, I had to go to bed at 9 p.m. while TV programs ran until 10. It wasn’t fair—and it burned into my brain. One day, I wanted to be the person who decided how stories end.”

From Sociologist to Storyteller

“Sociology gave me a backstage pass into human behavior. Understanding people—not just markets—is what powers great storytelling. It’s my foundation, even in business.”

Wind Entertainment: Building Stories That Travel

“In 2019, I launched Wind Entertainment to nurture writers. By 2020, we were producing our first TV drama. That show, The Starry Love, aired on four stations and sold in over 30 countries.”

Why AI Can’t Write Your Script

“AI summarizes the past. It can’t write to surprise, or break molds. A drama needs rhythm, tension, and emotion tailored to the buyer—it’s art, not automation.”

Finding the Market in Emotion

“In venture capital, I was taught to find value through data. In storytelling, I learned to find it through emotion. A great script isn’t just written—it’s felt.”

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--Chief Change Officer--
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.

Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligence
for Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,
Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.

EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.
18 Million+ All-Time Downloads.
80+ Countries Reached Daily.
Global Top 1.5% Podcast.
Top 10 US Business.
Top 1 US Careers.

>>>170,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<

Nellie Wartoft is the founder and CEO of Tiger Hall, a change enablement platform built for teams tired of stale workshops and change theater. In Part One, she takes us from her tiny hometown in Sweden to the boardrooms of Asia, where flipping burgers at McDonald’s, carrying an ice hockey trunk to Singapore, and watching companies struggle with real transformation all shaped her mission. This is change management with edge—equal parts adventure, insight, and rebellion.

Key Highlights of Our Interview

Change Theater vs. Real Impact

“Most companies don’t fail at change because of bad tools. They fail because they bring people in too late and communicate like robots. Change has to feel human to work.”

Same Emotions, Different Timelines

“Fear, chaos, resistance—these show up everywhere, regardless of geography. The real difference is how cultures structure leadership and how fast they move. The U.S. wants speed. Asia wants legacy. Both come with tradeoffs.”

Ego: The Silent Killer of Transformation

“The higher the ego of a leader, the lower the success rate of their transformation. Fear of feedback, obsession with control—it turns a team into a compliance machine instead of a change engine.”

Tech Isn’t the Problem—Leadership Is

“People love apps—just not the ones that feel forced. If your tools aren’t solving real problems or making life easier, the issue isn’t the platform. It’s the person who bought it.”

Walking the Talk at Tiger Hall

“We use our own platform to manage internal change. No Zoom fatigue, no death-by-Slack. One short recording can replace hours of town halls and still hit harder—because it’s fast, direct, and straight from the source.”

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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Nellie Wartoft

--Chief Change Officer--
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.

Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligence
for Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,
Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.

EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.
18 Million+ All-Time Downloads.
80+ Countries Reached Daily.
Global Top 1.5% Podcast.
Top 10 US Business.
Top 1 US Careers.

>>>170,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<

Nellie Wartoft is the founder and CEO of Tiger Hall, a change enablement platform built for teams tired of stale workshops and change theater. In Part One, she takes us from her tiny hometown in Sweden to the boardrooms of Asia, where flipping burgers at McDonald’s, carrying an ice hockey trunk to Singapore, and watching companies struggle with real transformation all shaped her mission. This is change management with edge—equal parts adventure, insight, and rebellion.

Key Highlights of Our Interview

Sweden, Cows, and a One-Way Ticket

“On my 18th birthday, I booked a one-way flight to Singapore, packed my life into an ice hockey trunk, and left my small Swedish village—where the cows outnumbered the people. That was the real beginning of everything.”

From Fries to Founder: Discovering Her Professional DNA

“I call McDonald’s my most transformative experience. That’s where I learned what I now call my three professional addictions: high pace, commercial thrill, and leadership. Everything I’ve done since started there.”

The Real Meaning of Resilience

“Workshops don’t build resilience. Hard times do. Either you win, or you build character. That’s the trade-off. And the only way through it is through it.”

Don’t Build Your Identity on a Job Title

“If your sense of self is built on a title, what happens when that’s gone? I don’t define myself by being a CEO. I define myself as someone who works hard, learns fast, and has good intentions. That can’t be taken away.”

Why She Launched Tiger Hall (Spoiler: It Involves SharePoint Rage)

“Too many companies still think change means mass emails, intranet black holes, and jargon-filled PDFs. I wanted to build a platform that makes transformation actually work—for real humans, not just consultants.”

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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Nellie Wartoft

--Chief Change Officer--
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.

Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligence
for Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,
Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.

EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.
18 Million+ All-Time Downloads.
80+ Countries Reached Daily.
Global Top 1.5% Podcast.
Top 10 US Business.
Top 1 US Careers.

>>>170,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<

In this final part, we go beyond buzzwords. Colin breaks down how to make AI work for you—not replace you. He explains how human intelligence and machine intelligence can combine to create authentic, enhanced value. From warning students not to cheat with ChatGPT to showing executives how to tailor their own AI strategy, Colin’s message is clear: You don’t need every tool. You need the right ones—and a deeply human way to use them.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

You Don’t Need Every Tool—Just the Right Ones

“People want a silver bullet—one AI tool that solves everything. But like any good toolbox, the magic lies in how tools are combined and applied, not how many you have.”

Skill Stacking Isn’t Hoarding—It’s Connecting

“Collecting skills is easy. What matters is how you use them together. Communication, judgment, and emotional intelligence are what give your technical know-how real power.”

Human Intelligence = Authenticity

“AI might write your speech, but it’s your lived experience that makes it land. Audiences can smell a fake. Human intelligence—time-tested, real, and grounded—is irreplaceable.”

The Penalty of Skipping the Work

“If a student uses AI to cheat, they fail. If a banker uses it to write a pitch, it could be fraud. As stakes rise, so do the consequences of skipping the human part.”

Authentic + Artificial = Amplified

“When human intelligence and AI align, you don’t just get automation—you get amplified value. That’s the combo to aim for: authentic, enhanced, and scalable.”

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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Colin Savage

--Chief Change Officer--
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.

Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligence
for Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,
Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.

EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.
18 Million+ All-Time Downloads.
80+ Countries Reached Daily.
Global Top 1.5% Podcast.
Top 10 US Business.
Top 1 US Careers.

>>>170,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<

In this episode, Colin deconstructs the romanticism of “lifelong learning” and makes a sharp case for skill stacking—not as a buzzword, but as a career imperative. From the strategy rooms of Japan to the boardrooms of Canada, he unpacks the realities of navigating change in cultures, families, and workplaces. Plus, why some organizations say they want transformation but are actually addicted to the comfort of legacy systems. 

If you’re tired of collecting degrees that lead nowhere, this one’s for you.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

The Illusion of Change-Readiness

“Some companies claim they want transformation, but really, they’re just addicted to the status quo. I’ve seen firms hire me as their ‘change guy,’ only to resist every proposal I made. You can’t retrofit a new future if people are still clinging to an old playbook.”

Measured, Not Maniac: Change the Japanese Way

“In Japan, change isn’t chaotic—it’s deliberate, strategic, and often unspoken. Success meant listening, researching, and quietly building allies one by one. Change doesn’t have to be noisy to be real.”

No More MBA Decisions in a Vacuum

“Career decisions ripple through families. Too often, we forget that behind every ‘yes’ to an opportunity is a spouse, a child, or a life partner who wasn’t asked. Real transformation involves everyone at the table.”

Lifelong Learning Is a Vibe—But It’s Not Enough

“Learning for learning’s sake isn’t a strategy. Without direction, it becomes a distraction. The future belongs to those who don’t just keep learning, but stack those learnings to build something sharper, deeper, and more useful.”

Skill Stacking vs. Degree Collecting

“My bookshelf has diplomas and dust-covered guitars. Not all knowledge needs to be monetized—but if you want to be valuable in a complex world, stack your skills like a staircase. That’s how you move up and across.”

Tools, But No Toolbox?

“We live in a tool economy. Got a problem? There’s an app for that. But most people aren’t solving root issues—they’re patching over symptoms. Without connecting your skills with insight, it’s just noise.”

Personal vs. Professional Learning

“Skill stacking is for the professional you. Lifelong learning is for the human you. You don’t need to turn your love of modern African history into a job. Sometimes learning is just for joy—and that’s okay.”

From Change Addict to Change Architect

“I used to go full throttle. Now I slow down, talk more, and push less. Change is a collective journey. It doesn’t matter how fast you’re driving if no one’s willing to ride with you.”

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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Colin Savage

--Chief Change Officer--
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.

Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligence
for Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,
Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.

EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.
18 Million+ All-Time Downloads.
80+ Countries Reached Daily.
Global Top 1.5% Podcast.
Top 10 US Business.
Top 1 US Careers.

>>>170,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<

If reinvention were a passport, Colin Savage’s pages would be full. From global projects across seven countries to helping old-school industries like Japanese insurers modernize with tact, Colin’s career isn’t just built on change—it thrives on it.

In Part One, we go deep on the difference between chasing novelty and building purpose. Colin dismantles the dated idea of “lifelong learning” and replaces it with something sharper: skill stacking. You’ll also hear how he developed change muscles by moving countries, industries, and ideas—without ever losing sight of what matters.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

The Purpose Behind the Pivot

“Change is exciting—but if there’s no deeper reason behind it, it’s just noise.” Why purpose should lead, not lag, behind transformation.

Skill Stacking vs. Lifelong Learning

“Lifelong learning sounds noble—but it’s often aimless. Skill stacking is intentional.” Colin’s case for mastering combinations over collecting badges.

Japan: Where Change Means Patience

“In the Japanese life insurance industry, I learned that fast isn’t always smart.” Why transformation in traditional sectors demands humility and consensus.

The Trap of Unfinished Adventures

“You can jump into change for the thrill—but it’s the follow-through that matters.” Why Colin says completion is underrated in careers.

Addicted to Change? Own It.

“I love novelty—but I’ve learned to pair it with discipline.” Colin’s method for staying curious without burning out.

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--Chief Change Officer--
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.

Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligence
for Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,
Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.

EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.
18 Million+ All-Time Downloads.
80+ Countries Reached Daily.
Global Top 1.5% Podcast.
Top 10 US Business.
Top 1 US Careers.

>>>170,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<

Rebecca Sutherns didn’t follow a straight path—and she’s the first to say that’s the point. As a strategy coach and solo entrepreneur for 27 years, she’s helped leaders rethink what’s next while doing the same for herself. In this two-part series, we talk about work-life trade-offs, momentum, and why imagining your future might be the most strategic thing you’ll do. 

If you’ve ever hit pause or felt stuck in place, this one’s worth a listen.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Midlife Isn’t a Crisis—It’s a Cue

“I wasn’t burning out, but I could tell I was flatlining.”

How Rebecca used a sabbatical to catch up with herself—not because she broke, but because she was ready for something deeper.

What Comes After ‘I’ve Got This’

“I kept getting hired for things I could do in my sleep. That’s when I knew it was time to stretch again.”

The danger of being competent—and the invitation to do more than just deliver.

Stop Filling Gaps You Don’t Want to Own

“I could solve the problem, but that didn’t mean I should.”

Why she stepped back from team leadership roles—even when others saw it as a step up.

Sabbatical as Prototype

“It was a test. Could I shift the pace and still be useful?”

Why her sabbatical wasn’t a break from work—it was a strategic experiment in working differently.

A Career Built Like a Hammock

“The structure holds me, but it flexes.”

Her metaphor for a work life that stretches without snapping—anchored but adjustable.

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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Rebecca Sutherns, PhD, CPF

--Chief Change Officer--
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.

Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligence
for Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,
Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.

EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.
18 Million+ All-Time Downloads.
80+ Countries Reached Daily.
Global Top 1.5% Podcast.
Top 10 US Business.
Top 1 US Careers.

>>>170,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<

Rebecca Sutherns didn’t follow a straight path—and she’s the first to say that’s the point. As a strategy coach and solo entrepreneur for 27 years, she’s helped leaders rethink what’s next while doing the same for herself. In this two-part series, we talk about work-life trade-offs, momentum, and why imagining your future might be the most strategic thing you’ll do. 

If you’ve ever hit pause or felt stuck in place, this one’s worth a listen.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

27 Years Solo—By Design

“I’m in year 27 of my own solopreneurial journey.”

Why she stayed intentionally solo—and never looked back.

The Business Started in the Gaps

“If it sounded interesting… and if I could find some childcare, then it was like, okay, I’ll say yes.”

How her career grew between naptimes and network calls.

The Flight That Changed Her Fees

“This guy said, ‘You’re charging what?’ And I ended up in this business school program that totally transformed how I priced.”

One plane ride, one wake-up call, five times the income.

Why She Chose Not to Scale

“I didn’t want the responsibility of paying someone else’s mortgage.”

Her unapologetic answer to the growth-at-all-costs model.

Reinvention, Repeated

“I would just change how I looked at the work.”

Why she never pivoted industries—but constantly evolved her lens.

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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Rebecca Sutherns, PhD, CPF

--Chief Change Officer--
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.

Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligence
for Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,
Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.

EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.
18 Million+ All-Time Downloads.
80+ Countries Reached Daily.
Global Top 1.5% Podcast.
Top 10 US Business.
Top 1 US Careers.

>>>170,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<

Robert MacPhee didn’t start out teaching values—he started out parking cars. But somewhere between the valet stand and becoming Jack Canfield’s right-hand man (yes, that Chicken Soup guy), Robert found his lane. Now the author of Living a Values-Based Life, he’s guiding people to stop driving in circles and finally align their actions with what truly matters.

In this second half of the series, Robert breaks down how to live out your values in everyday life—not just name them. We dig into why values change with life stages, what to do after you’ve identified your top five, and how to keep them visible and active as your world evolves. 

If you’ve ever felt stuck, misaligned, or unsure what to prioritize, this episode gives you the clarity compass you didn’t know you needed.

Key Highlights of Our Interviews:

Why It’s So Hard to Define Our Own Values

“Most people’s initial list of values often reflects what they think others want to hear.”

We’re conditioned to impress, not reflect—until we learn how to tune out the noise and tune into what really matters.

How a Values-Based Life Can Improve Work

“Clarity about values doesn’t just make personal life better—it’s transformative for work too.”

Whether it’s contribution, integrity, or service, values-aligned action makes work more purposeful and less draining.

Do Values Change Over Time? The Short Answer: Yes.

“What mattered in high school may be worlds apart from your sixties or seventies.”

Life events—from caregiving to career pivots—reshape our internal compass. Values aren’t static; they evolve with us.

Keeping Values Visible

“Have them on your phone, your mirror, your nightstand—whatever it takes.”

Don’t just declare your values. Revisit them, reflect on them, and let them guide your daily decisions.

Borrowing Values When You Need Them

“Discipline and strength may not be on your list—but sometimes, you’ll need to call them in.”

Complementary values can be summoned in certain seasons—without betraying your core.

The 4 A’s: A Framework for Application

“Assess, pick an Area, choose Actions, and create Accountability.”

Robert’s system helps you go from intention to implementation—because without action, it’s just a nice conversation.

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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Robert MacPhee

--Chief Change Officer--
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.

Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligence
for Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,
Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.

EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.
18 Million+ All-Time Downloads.
80+ Countries Reached Daily.
Global Top 1.5% Podcast.
Top 10 US Business.
Top 1 US Careers.

>>>170,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<