LEVELS – A Whole New Level

#257 - Join the “Good Energy” Levels book club and take charge of your health | Dr. Casey Means & Dr. Robert Lustig


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Why are we spending more on health care every year, yet people are getting sicker? “Good Energy,” a book by Casey Means, MD, details how you can take your health into your own hands with the power of food as medicine. Dr. Casey Means and Dr. Robert Lustig discuss the overarching themes of “Good Energy,” why we need changes in government and health care, and how people can overhaul their own health with actionable tips, such as eliminating ultra-processed foods from their diet. Plus, Means answers readers’ burning questions.


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🎙 What Casey Means, MD, & Robert Lustig, MD, discuss:

(3:05) — Why Casey Means, MD, left her surgical residency program

(7:47) — The book “Good Energy” in a nutshell

(9:50) — The problem with our mitochondria

(16:20) — We’re getting too much of our food from ultra-processed items

(19:04) — How to reduce cravings

(22:06) — Different types of exercise send different signals to our mitochondria

(29:42) — Modern medicine is designed to address disease when it’s already present

(36:03) — Nutrition guidelines are fraught with conflicts of interest

(45:16) — The need for addressing school lunches and SNAP

(54:48)  — Trends in glucose matter

(57:49) — Dr. Lustig shares his thoughts on “Good Energy”

Transcript & Show Notes

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Watch the conversation: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://youtu.be/t52Fmvh-5Ww?si=dHdOWrRGMTutSfcb

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