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Have you ever walked away from a conversation thinking, “Why did I do that… again?”
You care. You love them. You want it to work. And yet when things get intense, you shut down, go quiet, and disappear emotionally.
In this episode of Love Shack Live, we unpack what avoidance really is (hint: it’s not a character flaw) and why shutting down is often a nervous system protection strategy that once worked really well… but now costs you connection.
You’ll learn what’s happening inside the avoidant partner, why the anxious partner panics when the conversation goes silent, and how this dynamic can trap both people in a loop of pressure, withdrawal, and resentment.
Most importantly, we’ll show you a different path: building emotional safety and emotional capacity in small, practical steps so you can come back to the table without spiraling or disappearing.
Because shutting down isn’t who you are. It’s what you learned.
And you can learn something new.
In This Episode, We Cover
Timestamps:
03:08 Debunking the ‘They Don’t Care’ Story: Everyone Can Be Avoidant
04:13 What Shutdown Feels Like in the Body (A Real-Life Example)
07:42 Pressure Makes It Worse: The Partner’s Panic & the Stories We Make Up
08:40 Anxious vs. Avoidant: Opposite Coping Styles Collide
09:48 The CPR Metaphor: Why Reassurance Can Feel Suffocating
11:55 Shame, Self-Judgment, and the Spiral on Both Sides
21:52 The Real Goal: Regulate First, Then Come Back to the Table
25:54 ‘Understand Me First’: How Conversations Turn Into Fights
27:55 Be the First to Listen: How One Person Can De‑escalate the Fight
28:56 Understanding Isn’t Contagious: Compassion for Anxious vs. Avoidant Dynamics
30:57 Stop Making Up Stories: Get the ‘Intel’ From the Person, Not Your Head
33:12 The Consensus Trap: Why Friends & Social Media Can’t Explain Your Partner
35:45 “They Don’t Deserve It” vs. “You Do”: Regulate for Your Own Sake
38:18 Courtroom vs. Classroom: Trade Punishment for Curiosity (and the Lightbulb Moment)
41:32 Emotional Safety 101: It’s Uncomfortable, Triggering, and Still Necessary
42:28 The Safety ‘Cheat Sheet’: Slow, Skillful Back‑and‑Forth (5 Minutes at a Time)
50:09 Wrap-Up + Get Support: Key Takeaways, Next Episode, and Clarity Call
52:05 Emotional Capacity ‘Temperature Check’ + Closing Rituals
By Staci Bartley, Relationship Expert4.9
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Have you ever walked away from a conversation thinking, “Why did I do that… again?”
You care. You love them. You want it to work. And yet when things get intense, you shut down, go quiet, and disappear emotionally.
In this episode of Love Shack Live, we unpack what avoidance really is (hint: it’s not a character flaw) and why shutting down is often a nervous system protection strategy that once worked really well… but now costs you connection.
You’ll learn what’s happening inside the avoidant partner, why the anxious partner panics when the conversation goes silent, and how this dynamic can trap both people in a loop of pressure, withdrawal, and resentment.
Most importantly, we’ll show you a different path: building emotional safety and emotional capacity in small, practical steps so you can come back to the table without spiraling or disappearing.
Because shutting down isn’t who you are. It’s what you learned.
And you can learn something new.
In This Episode, We Cover
Timestamps:
03:08 Debunking the ‘They Don’t Care’ Story: Everyone Can Be Avoidant
04:13 What Shutdown Feels Like in the Body (A Real-Life Example)
07:42 Pressure Makes It Worse: The Partner’s Panic & the Stories We Make Up
08:40 Anxious vs. Avoidant: Opposite Coping Styles Collide
09:48 The CPR Metaphor: Why Reassurance Can Feel Suffocating
11:55 Shame, Self-Judgment, and the Spiral on Both Sides
21:52 The Real Goal: Regulate First, Then Come Back to the Table
25:54 ‘Understand Me First’: How Conversations Turn Into Fights
27:55 Be the First to Listen: How One Person Can De‑escalate the Fight
28:56 Understanding Isn’t Contagious: Compassion for Anxious vs. Avoidant Dynamics
30:57 Stop Making Up Stories: Get the ‘Intel’ From the Person, Not Your Head
33:12 The Consensus Trap: Why Friends & Social Media Can’t Explain Your Partner
35:45 “They Don’t Deserve It” vs. “You Do”: Regulate for Your Own Sake
38:18 Courtroom vs. Classroom: Trade Punishment for Curiosity (and the Lightbulb Moment)
41:32 Emotional Safety 101: It’s Uncomfortable, Triggering, and Still Necessary
42:28 The Safety ‘Cheat Sheet’: Slow, Skillful Back‑and‑Forth (5 Minutes at a Time)
50:09 Wrap-Up + Get Support: Key Takeaways, Next Episode, and Clarity Call
52:05 Emotional Capacity ‘Temperature Check’ + Closing Rituals

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