Emmy and Natalia welcome our favorite producer Matthew to talk about his new book and the book of Revelation and why we all have unlearning/learning to do and sure it's a scary book of the Bible but not for the reasons we think.

Links:

Pre-Order Matthew's book: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-end-is-the-beginning-matthew-ian-fleming/1144500240

Renew Event in Minneapolis: https://churchanew.org/voices

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