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In this conversation, Thomas’ guest shares his unique journey from wrestling to Jiu-Jitsu, discussing the challenges and mindset shifts required to excel in both sports. He emphasizes the importance of vulnerability, reflection, and the willingness to learn from mistakes. The discussion also delves into the dynamics of training in jiu-jitsu, emphasizing the significance of trust among training partners and the differences between self-defense and sport jiu-jitsu. Finally, he shares his thoughts on achieving black belt status and the complexities of the ranking system in martial arts.

Here is The RŌL Radio with a physician assistant, who graduated Summa Cum Laude from Marquette University, prior to that he received his undergraduate degree in molecular/microbiology from University of Illinois. Current Director of Education and Southside Lead for Advanced Practice Providers in his medical group, an avid wrestler, dedicated father and Thomas’ first organic black belt, Kyle Kalchbrenner.

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Episode Highlights:

2:33 The Transition from Wrestling to Jiu-Jitsu

8:12 Making Yourself Vulnerable 

14:16 Combining Jiu-Jitsu and Wrestling

24:00 Losing to Improve

27:11 The Hardest Thing for a Beginner

31:41 The Worst Feeling on the Mats

34:13 Kyle Starts Wrestling

39:58 Overcoming Fear 

47:58 Finding Jiu-Jitsu

51:23 Trusting Your Partners

1:01:44 Ranking Systems

1:19:13 What If

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