The Bootstrapped Founder

302: Nick Groeneveld — Speaking the Language of your Customers


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Nick Groeneveld (@ToolboxOfDesign) understands that design isn't about gadgets, widgets, or buttons. For Nick, design is understanding the needs, desires, and expectations of those you aim to serve. We chat about talking to your customers, what common mistakes indie hackers make when thinking about "design", and just how much more UX means than web interfaces.

Nick is ALSO the guy behind my interview videos and thumbnails! He's the producer of The Bootstrapped Founder, really. We talk about how freelancing and working with a media partner works, how he juggles his financials, and what lifestyle he aims for.

Nick on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ToolboxOfDesign

00:00:00 Designing for the User Experience

00:09:34 Managing Feature Creep and Simplifying UX

00:16:15 User-Centric Design and Business Growth

00:25:48 Evolving UX Design Services

00:33:12 Limiting Clientele for Meaningful Work

00:36:51 Building a Lifestyle Work Balance

00:50:01 Supporting Bootswap Founder on Multiple Platforms


This episode is sponsored by Acquire.com

The blog post: https://thebootstrappedfounder.com/nick-groeneveld-speaking-the-language-of-your-customers/

The podcast episode: https://tbf.fm/episodes/302-nick-groeneveld-speaking-the-language-of-your-customers

The video: https://youtu.be/mCH_qEHgK0Y

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  • (00:00) - Designing for the User Experience
  • (09:34) - Managing Feature Creep and Simplifying UX
  • (16:15) - User-Centric Design and Business Growth
  • (25:48) - Evolving UX Design Services
  • (33:12) - Limiting Clientele for Meaningful Work
  • (36:51) - Building a Lifestyle Work Balance
  • (50:01) - Supporting Bootswap Founder on Multiple Platforms
  • ...more
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