In this episode, Chris Goede and Perry Holley explore the concept of balancing the push and pull of leadership. They discuss the importance of building positive relationships, demonstrating technical competence, and showing consistency in order to establish trust with team members. The hosts explain the dangers of focusing too heavily on either the push (driving for results) or the pull (inspiring and empowering others) aspects of leadership, emphasizing the need for a balanced approach. Throughout the conversation, they provide practical insights and strategies for leaders to effectively navigate the tension between pushing for performance and pulling for growth, ultimately leading to a more engaged and productive team.

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