Sarah and Coach Amanda explore up—and the down---sides of pursuing passions with Brad Stulberg, co-author of The Passion Paradox: A Guide to Going All in, Finding Success, and Discovering the Benefits of an Unbalanced Life. In this thought-provoking conversation, the trio discusses:

-how passion can be a gift or a curse;

-the difference between obsessive and harmonious passion;

-the critical importance of rest—and patience;

-how to get over a disappointing race finish; and,

-the benefits of getting older.

The mother runners talk parenting in the intro, including the value of occasionally loosening the reins on teens. Brad joins the conversation at 13:12.

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