Lifeworlds

4. Money: In Service of Nature?


Listen Later

With Lorenzo de Rosensweig & Eric Smith.


This week we’re asking whether it’s possible to support the lifeworlds of nature with the very same tools that have caused them harm. We’ll be joined by Lorenzo de Rosenzweig, who has headed Latin America’s largest nature conservation trusts for over three decades. And Eric Smith, from the Grantham Neglected Climate Opportunities Fund and Edacious, will talk about venture capital investing in nature based solutions.


I’m interested in this topic because I invest capital in projects that regenerate nature through my vehicle Ground Effect. In that work I constantly encounter philosophical and practical tensions – namely that complex natural systems and the trillions of processes that enable life to exist can never be fully translated and priced by markets. Numbers and metrics can’t tell us about the touch of rough bark or the flutter of a beetle’s wing against our skin. And because money is fungible, it can often efface all distinctions and trigger the further commodification and abstraction of a living ecology. 


And yet finance can be used beneficially on behalf of nature. We can look at the maturing industry of biodiversity markets which attempt to move beyond single metrics like carbon, or debt for nature swaps, blue bonds, true cost accounting, payments for ecosystem services, and even more radical ideas like DAOs where nature owns itself. I’ve uploaded resources on the Lifeworlds library for those who want to go deeper on these innovations. Perhaps then, the conversation of “finance for nature” is about finding the right balance of not letting the perfect be the enemy of the good, and acknowledging where the role of markets begins and ends in the wider spectrum of systems change.


Show Links:

  • Finance for Nature: Lifeworlds Resource
  • Regenerative Economics: Lifeworlds Resource
  • Terra Habitus
  • Mexican Fund for the Conservation of Nature
  • Conservation Finance Alliance
  • Grantham Trust: Neglected Climate Opportunities
  • Edacious
  • Payments for Environmental Services Program | Costa Rica
  • Steward
  • SPUN fungi
  • Ground Effect


Music: Electric Ethnicity by Igor Dvorkin, Duncan Pittock, Ellie Kidd & The Rising by Tryad CCPL

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

...more
View all episodesView all episodes
Download on the App Store

LifeworldsBy Alexa Firmenich

  • 5
  • 5
  • 5
  • 5
  • 5

5

16 ratings


More shows like Lifeworlds

View all
Hidden Brain by Hidden Brain, Shankar Vedantam

Hidden Brain

43,576 Listeners

Tara Brach by Tara Brach

Tara Brach

10,536 Listeners

On Being with Krista Tippett by On Being Studios

On Being with Krista Tippett

10,251 Listeners

For The Wild by For The Wild

For The Wild

1,169 Listeners

Living Myth by Michael Meade

Living Myth

990 Listeners

How to Survive the End of the World by How to Survive the End of the World

How to Survive the End of the World

2,142 Listeners

Emergence Magazine Podcast by Emergence Magazine

Emergence Magazine Podcast

497 Listeners

Green Dreamer: Seeding change towards collective healing, sustainability, regeneration by kaméa chayne

Green Dreamer: Seeding change towards collective healing, sustainability, regeneration

604 Listeners

Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast by Persephonica and Global Optimism

Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast

462 Listeners

The Emerald by Joshua Schrei

The Emerald

1,008 Listeners

Accidental Gods by Accidental Gods

Accidental Gods

152 Listeners

Mind & Life by Mind & Life Institute

Mind & Life

278 Listeners

Planet: Critical by Rachel Donald

Planet: Critical

86 Listeners

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens by Nate Hagens

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens

408 Listeners

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl by Thomas Huebl

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl

118 Listeners