Stephanie talks with Ron Baker from <a href="https://www.verasage.com/">VeraSage</a> about killing the billable hour and switching to a client-centered pricing model. If today’s podcast resonates with you and you haven’t read The Small Firm Roadmap yet, <a href="https://lawyerist.com/community/roadmap/">get the first chapter right now for free</a>!Thanks to <a href="https://albatross.cloud/lawyerist">Albatross Legal Workspaces</a>, <a href="https://www.postali.com/lawyerist/">Postali</a>, and <a href="https://posh.com/?utm_medium=Search&utm_source=GoogleAds&utm_campaign=Brand_Exact&utm_keyword=posh%20virtual%20receptionist&gclid=Cj0KCQiA_c-OBhDFARIsAIFg3ewGfwgITveMGDSQCWKuV_ewOsaM5yjJU4nmbsb9UHeLlVAGWSMnO-gaApWCEALw_wcB">Posh Virtual Receptionists</a> for sponsoring this episode.

Stephanie talks with Ron Baker from VeraSage about killing the billable hour and switching to a client-centered pricing model. If today’s podcast resonates with you and you haven’t read The Small Firm Roadmap yet, get the first chapter right now for free! Thanks to Albatross Legal Workspaces, Postali, and Posh Virtual Receptionists for sponsoring this episode.

Stephanie talks with Ron Baker from <a href="https://www.verasage.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">VeraSage</a> about killing the billable hour and switching to a client-centered pricing model.&nbsp;If today’s podcast resonates with you and you haven’t read The Small Firm Roadmap yet, <a href="https://lawyerist.com/community/roadmap/" rel="noopener noreferrer">get the first chapter right now for free</a>!Thanks to <a href="https://albatross.cloud/lawyerist" rel="noopener noreferrer">Albatross Legal Workspaces</a>, <a href="https://www.postali.com/lawyerist/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Postali</a>, and <a href="https://posh.com/?utm_medium=Search&amp;utm_source=GoogleAds&amp;utm_campaign=Brand_Exact&amp;utm_keyword=posh%20virtual%20receptionist&amp;gclid=Cj0KCQiA_c-OBhDFARIsAIFg3ewGfwgITveMGDSQCWKuV_ewOsaM5yjJU4nmbsb9UHeLlVAGWSMnO-gaApWCEALw_wcB" rel="noopener noreferrer">Posh Virtual Receptionists</a> for sponsoring this episode.&nbsp;

#400: Get Beyond the Billable Hour, with Ron Baker

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