Sarah and Amanda speak with Dr. Alice Boyes, a former clinical psychologist and author of The Healthy Mind Toolkit, about how to beat mental exhaustion. Dr. Boyes details:

-what the “step-up approach” is—and how to use it to your advantage;

-why replicating your current systems might be better (and easier!) than creating a new system;

-how the adage, “Too busy chasing cows to build a fence,” applies to us all;

-the importance of pleasurable routines in our daily lives; and,

-the “secret resource” for emotional support.

The mother runner duo talks swimming in the intro, with the guest jumping in at 11:06.

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