This week's episode is all about pets – the agony and the ecstacy. We love them but the real question is: do they deserve it?!

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• Deep Throat. Rosemary is referring to the seminal journalistic film, All the Presidents' Men, while Beatrice is referring to… something else
• Michael D's puppy, Misneach, steals the spotlight. (As a correction: Bród is still alive. Síoda is the dog who sadly died last year.)
• Netflix's Marcella, about which we both complained non-stop, but of which would happily watch 10 more seasons
• The medical mystery of "sleep eating"
• Despite what Beatrice says – "a koi can live as long as you or me!" – the average koi fish has a life expectancy of 25-35 years
• Nessa Cronin of The Try On and her zebra courses
• NFTs and the value assigned to them by the buyer
• Another correction: the lifespan of a hamster is 2-3 years
• Brood X cicadas – the joys of American life!
• Sir Didymus and Ambrosius, the true stars of Labyrinth
• The great bear-scratching video that has become legend in the Mac Cabe-Kirkland households

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Not Without My Sister is presented by sisters Beatrice Mac Cabe and Rosemary Mac Cabe, in Fort Wayne, Indiana. Our producer is Liam Geraghty. Sound editing and original music by Don Kirkland. Original illustration by Lindsay Neilson.

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