In this emotionally charged episode of The Gi Spot, Kaz and Rach are joined by Producer Mat—Matt Page—for a conversation that hits far deeper than the typical roll. Together, they explore the heavy terrain of mental health, vulnerability, and how Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu has become an unlikely but powerful tool in navigating life’s darker corners.

Matt shares the story behind the injury that became the catalyst for his personal struggle with mental health—a physical blow that spiraled into emotional and psychological fallout. Through honest reflection, he discusses the isolation, the anger, the numb stretches of time, and how traditional forms of support often fell short. Then, he talks about finding his way back—not only through therapy couches, medication bottles, and the love and support of family, but through the structured chaos of BJJ.

Kaz, Rach, and Matt delve into the impact of shared suffering on the mats, the discipline of controlled violence, and the emotional sanctuary that jiu-jitsu offers—especially for those trained to suppress emotion in service and survival. They explore the veterans program that Matt and Rachael now lead at Iconic Jiu Jitsu Academy, a space dedicated to reintegration, healing, and connection through movement and camaraderie.

The stories that emerge from the program are raw and inspiring—veterans and first responders who’ve found not just strength or fitness, but a reawakening of identity and purpose. It’s a candid, compassionate, and deeply human episode that speaks to anyone who’s ever faced darkness and found their way through it one roll at a time.