In this episode of 5 O’Clock Apron Podcast Claire cooks with fish merchant Robin Turner. Robin’s family have been involved in the Cornish fishing industry for 5 generations and what Robin doesn’t know about fish isn’t worth knowing. Learn how to select the freshest fish, how fish change with the seasons, and what Claire will need to do if she wants to catch a mackerel. The podcast is recorded on the beach at Mousehole, near the South West Coastal Path, and attracts the attention of passers-by intrigued to see the pair cooking such delicious food in the sunshine on a camping gas stove. Robin cooks an old and locally famous dish of Mackerel with 'Cat’s Whiskers' sauce. Intrigued? We certainly were! 

This podcast is a brilliant listen for anyone heading to the seaside this summer, and for those who want to know more about fabulous local Cornish produce. Thank you Robin for sharing your colossal knowledge of fish.

Recipe:

Serves 2

2 mackerel filleted 

200mls double cream

1 heaped tsp mustard powder

1 tbsp apple cider vinegar 

Salt and pepper, to taste 

Splash of oil, to cook the fish

Robin served this with some pink peppercorn and kombucha pickled radishes 

Baguette or some boiled potatoes, to serve 

Get a good pan hot over a high to moderate heat. Add the mackerel fillets skin side down, giving them a gentle press to stop them curling up - see reel. Cook for around 2 - 3 minutes then flip and cook 30 secs to 1 minute on other side (depending on thickness of fillets). In a separate saucepan, add the mustard powder and vinegar and mix together, over a low heat add the cream and season well with salt and pepper to taste, warm through and serve the Cat’s Whiskers Sauce alongside the fried mackerel immediately.

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In this episode of 5 O’Clock Apron Podcast Claire cooks with RNLI lifeguard Gavin Philpotts. The podcast is recorded in the sand dunes above Sennen Beach, just below the lifeguard hut. With the sun shining bright and the lifeguard’s radios in bleeping distance, Claire and Gavin carve a space to cook with a lifeguard rescue board as their work surface. Claire arrives with some mackerel bought that morning in Newlyn and the pair get busy preparing a tabbouleh to go alongside, Gavin also contributes some roasted beets which he brought from home that morning. 

With the iconic 90’s TV series Baywatch as Claire’s reference for all things lifeguard, coupled with the countless lifeguards Claire and her family spot on Cornish beaches each summer, meeting and cooking alongside Gavin was a real highlight. 

We talk saving lives, long distance swimming, rip currents, weever fish and where lifeguards go in the wintertime.

Huge thanks to RNLI for covering Gavin as he cooked with us, after all lifesaving can never stop, for whatever the reason, my podcast included.

Find out more about the RNLI and Sennen beach here: Sennen Beach - RNLI Lifeguarded Beach in Cornwall

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Make this recipe. It is the very essence of summertime in Cornwall via The Levant.

Serves 2

2 mackerel, filleted 

2 tbsp olive oil to fry and 3 -4 tbsp olive oil for the dressing

50g bulgar wheat, soaked in boiling water for 15 mins then drained 

1 cucumber, diced small

4 spring onions

1/2 - 1 green or red chilli, finely diced 

1/2 red onion, finely diced 

Around 20 cherry tomatoes, diced small 

1 clove garlic, finely grated 

Big bunch of mint

Big bunch of pulses 

Fruit, any or all, I’m using in season 3 ripe apricots, diced small 

1 lemon, 1/2 juiced, 1/2 cut into quarters to serve

1 - 2 tbsp pomegranate molasses 

1/2 - 1 tsp dijon mustard (Gavin’s inclusion)

Pinch of ground cumin

Pinch of ground cinnamon 

Beetroots, roasted with salt in tin foil until soft, chopped into quarters 

Seasoned yoghurt, to serve

Method;

Make the tabbouleh first. Get all the salad ingredients in a bowl and make the dressing by mixing together the mustard, pomegranate, lemon juice, garlic and olive oil and season well with salt and pepper. Dress the tabbouleh and let it sit for at least 10 minutes before serving. Get a good pan hot over a moderate - hot heat. Add 2 tbsp of olive oil and heat until just shimmering. Add the mackerel fillets skin side down, giving them a gentle press to stop them curling up. Cook for around 2 - 3 minutes then flip and cook 30 secs to 1 minute on other side (depending on thickness of fillets). Serve the fried mackerel with the tabbouleh, roasted beets and seasoned yogurt.

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In this episode of 5 O’Clock Apron Podcast Claire cooks with the Cornish Witch Emma Griffin. The podcast is recorded in a magical shed at the bottom of Emma’s garden, next door to a graveyard. Alongside Emma is her witches' companion, or familiar, her dog, Walter.

Claire and Emma are cooking a ‘Protective’ Potato Salad with chicken and bacon on a camping stove and space is tight, what with the broomsticks and the cauldron, so Emma’s husband Steve kindly boils potatoes in the kitchen.

Emma’s witchcraft is boundlessly positive and together Claire and Emma talk good vs evil, recipes as spells, failed gangsters, sea witches and building towers of yumminess.

Claire has never met, not least cooked with a witch before, so the learning curve is a steep and ridiculously joy-filled one. 

The podcast ends with Claire happy in her newfound kitchen witchery and Emma’s recipe is a brilliant example of just how similar the disciplines of witchcraft and cookery really are.

Thank you Emma, we’ll be back!

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Recipe:

‘Protective’ Potato Salad with ‘Secret’ Ingredient Chicken, Maple and Bacon.

To feed x4 

2 large chicken breasts, diced 

6 rashers of streaky bacon

2 tbsp olive oil

600g small new potatoes

Soft lettuce, I used large butterhead 

4 spring onions, trimmed and finely sliced 

Dressing:

2 tbsp mayonnaise 

1 tbsp thick greek yogurt 

1 tbsp balsamic vinegar 

1 tbsp maple syrup 

1 heaped tsp dijon mustard

Juice of 1/2 lemon

Salt and Pepper, to taste 

Secret Ingredient info:

Emma used @nandosuk medium chicken seasoning powder, and it was great, Emma is a witch and I’m a chef, so I made my own and this is what I used;

1 heaped tsp unsmoked paprika 

1/4 tsp medium heat chilli powder

1 heaped tsp dried oregano 

1 heaped tsp ground cumin

1 heaped tsp ground coriander 

Few shakes of smoked paprika 

2 cloves garlic, finely grated 

2 tbsp olive oil

Zest of 1/2 lemon

Lots of black pepper and salt, to taste

Boil the potatoes until soft. Drain & keep warm. Marinade chicken in olive oil & the secret ingredients, or do as Emma does & use @nandosuk chicken seasoning powder. Leave for 30 mins, or less. Cook bacon in a pan over a moderate heat in a dry pan until crisping up, remove from pan, leaving fat behind in pan to cook chicken. Add a splash more olive oil to pan & cook chicken pieces over moderate heat until fully cooked through. Remove from heat & rest. Meanwhile, make dressing, mix mayonnaise, yoghurt, lemon juice, maple syrup, balsamic & mustard together & season well with salt & pepper. Dress warm potatoes with salad dressing & add the spring onions. Arrange lettuce on a serving plate & pile on with warm, dressed new potatoes. Add chicken & break up the bacon pieces to serve.

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In this episode of 5 O’Clock Apron Podcast Claire cooks with the wildlife cameraman, TV presenter, author and winner of BBC's Strictly Come Dancing, Hamza Yassin. The podcast is recorded in a tent at The Hay Literary Festival. Hamza is there to talk about his latest book ‘Be a Birder’ and Claire was there to cook a date and tomato tagine with him after he finished his long and busy day. Hamza is an extraordinary guest to cook alongside, gracious and charming, he’s a once in a lifetime, next-generation David Attenborough type contender. The world and all it’s wildlife salute you Hamza. Claire and Hamza talk Sudanese food, the perils of having your grandmother marry you off each time you return home, silent food to eat in a hide, pet monkeys, how bird spotting is really like Pokemon, rugby, Scotland and Pop-Eye The Sailor Man.

Hamza’s book, 'Be a Birder' is available here.

https://www.octopusbooks.co.uk/titles/hamza-yassin/be-a-birder/9781856755108/

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Recipe:

TOMATO, DATE + CHICKPEA TAGINE

2 onions, finely sliced or chopped 

4 garlic, finely chopped 

Olive oil, 2 - 3 tbsp

2 tsp ground cumin

2 tsp ground coriander

1 tsp ground ginger

1 large cinnamon stick

Salt and pepper, to taste

700g chickpeas, I used @boldbeanco

400g polpa (chopped) tomatoes

40g dates 

1/2 preserved lemon, finely chopped 

Couscous, cooked as per packet instructions, to serve 

Harissa, to serve

Coriander, roughly chopped, to serve

In a heavy bottomed saucepan with a lid (or use a tagine dish) heat the oil over a moderate heat and cook the onions until golden brown (around 10 mins), add the garlic and cook for a couple of minutes more. Blitz the tomatoes with the dates. Add the ground spices and the cinnamon stick to the onions and garlic and cook for 2 minutes more. Add the tomatoes and dates, rinse out the container in which you blended them with around 80mls of water, add that to the pan. Add the chickpeas (I didn’t bother draining them). Season the mix with salt and plenty of black pepper. Lid on and cook over a moderate / low heat on the stove top, or in the oven, at 180C for around 25 - 30 minutes. Remove the pan from the heat, check the seasoning, remembering the preserved lemon is salty, add the preserved lemon and stir well. Prepare the couscous as per instructions on packet (or do as I do in the reel, and toast the couscous in a dry pan until nutty shade of brown before carefully adding the boiling water and lemon juice). Serve the tagine with the couscous, coriander and harissa.

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In this episode of The 5 O’ Clock Apron Podcast Claire cooks with NHS respiratory consultant and clinical academic Anna Bibby. Anna chooses to cook red wine risotto with chorizo, and as you hear in the recording, tongue firmly in cheek, Claire ends up apologising to both Italy and Spain.

Apologies done and dusted, through their conversation we learn the different characteristics of carnaroli, vialone nano and arborio rice, the physiologically accurate way to stir love into a risotto, and Claire asks Do lung and kidney doctors ever enjoy eating offal?

Claire lives around the corner and plays netball with Anna but before recording this episode had never been to her house or indeed seen Anna out of netball gear. There’s a bit of netball chat, because this is after all how the two know each other, both centre court players, WA and WD. 

Anna's laughter is infectious and her enthusiasm for colour coding the risotto to cook for this podcast is sure to make you smile, as all good cookery should. Recipe below.

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Recipe

Red Wine, Sausage & Sage Risotto*

Enough for x2 generously 

*Anna’s version included chorizo, mushroom and black olive, I kept things a bit more simple, with Anna’s blessing. 

1 onion, finely diced 

3 garlic, finely chopped 

2 tbsp good olive oil 

200g risotto rice, ideally arborio, carnaroli or vialone nano

2 best quality sausages with little or no rusk, meat squeezed from casings

3 or 4 sage leaves

Salt and pepper, to taste 

150ml dry red wine

Around 800ml of hot stock, chicken or veg, up to you, quantity will depend on the absorbency of the rice 

Some lemon juice, to taste 

Big knob of butter, to finish 

Lots of parmesan, to finish 

Cook the onions in a heavy bottomed sauce pan over a medium heat in the olive oil for around 8 minutes until soft and translucent. Add the garlic, sausage and sage and cook, breaking the sausage meat up as you do, for around 5 minutes. Add the rice and cook for 2 minutes more until the outside of the rice grains turn translucent and the contents of the pan are making a snapping, sizzling sound. Add the red wine, mixing vigorously until all the liquid has been absorbed.

Turn down the heat to medium / low and add the hot stock ladleful by ladleful, season to taste with salt and pepper and stir vigorously each time you add more stock until the liquid has been absorbed before you add the any more liquid. The more you stir, the creamier the risotto. Stirring all the while, start checking your rice after 12 mins of cook time, anywhere between 15 and 20 minutes, the rice grains should not be chalky, but still have a slight resistance in the centre, the rice will continue cooking as the pan rests before serving.

Remove from heat when your rice is ready, you want the consistency to still be little soupy still, it will thicken up as the risotto rests. Add a squeeze of lemon juice, big knob of butter and plenty of parmesan. Stir well, put a lid on the pan and rest for at least 5 mins before serving. Serve each bowl topped with more parmesan and plenty of black pepper.

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In this episode of The 5 O’ Clock Apron Podcast Claire cooks with journalist and icon of broadcasting, Mishal Husain. A reassuring voice to so many listeners on BBC Radio 4’s Today Programme, Mishal cooked not 1 but 4 dishes, home-style Pakistani qeema*, daal*, raita and rice. All this was no mean feat given the 45 minutes from a standing start it took Mishal to cook and present the most beautiful lunch which Mishal and Claire then sat down to eat together. Listen in to hear Mishal discuss family recipes, feeding teenage boys and how to extend meals for unexpected guests, what broadcasters listen to on their day off, darning socks in the front of the TV and what leeway there is when recreating your mother and mother-in-law’s favourite recipes. This recording is an audio treat.

Mishal’s book Broken Threads, a memoir of love and family resilience detailing the days leading up to and surrounding the partition of India, is published on June 6th by 4th Estate.

https://www.4thestate.co.uk/products/broken-threads-my-family-from-empire-to-independence-mishal-husain-9780008531706/

*In Pakistan, due to the way the letter ق is pronounced, the dish is spelled with a "q" (qeema), but in India and Bangladesh it is written with a "k" (keema). Likewise, there are different spellings for dal / daal across South Asia. 

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In this episode of The 5 O’ Clock Apron Podcast Claire cooks with wildlife TV presenter, adventurer and naturalist Steve Backshall. Keen to use his brand new BBQ in his garden on the banks of the Thames, Steve cooks a fish curry, inspired by his extensive travels in India, particularly during his time as 'Adventurer in Residence' for National Geographic. Discover what an adventurer eats in the wild and cooks at home with the family. Hear Steve's take on sustainable fishing, river pollution and how the Thames has changed over the last few years, while he educates Claire on the swan mussel and other Thames edibles. Learn what Steve found in a suitcase under his house, and about his wife, rower Helen Glover’s 4th Olympic bid for a gold medal in Paris this summer. On cue, a kingfisher swoops past the pair as they cook the curry together, the Thames flowing and a rather chilly wind blowing. A great day, with a top guy.

Steve is on tour with his Steve Backshall Ocean live show this autumn, so if you want to see the man in real life, it’s strong recommend from us, especially Dot! https://www.stevebackshall.com/liveshows

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In this episode of The 5 O’ Clock Apron Podcast Claire cooks with New York clown and physical performer, Tyler West. Tyler is currently on tour with the very fabulous Giffords Circus here in the U.K. Needing to be in one piece for his shows later that day, Tyler was less than keen to be standing too near sharp knives and a smoking hot wok. So, in this episode, Claire cooks and Tyler chats, and this works just brilliantly. Tyler was extremely keen on making Pad Thai for the recording as bowls of cereal in his circus wagon can get a little samey he joked, and Thai food is is absolute favourite! We learn about his life as a circus performer, being a little person in clowning, his upbringing in Arizona including an intriguing dish called Hippopotamus, and his love of the odd English custom of stopping for tea and cookies and crisps. He gives tips on using coconut oil to remove false eyelashes, and juggles with the eggs.

If you get the opportunity to see Giffords Circus, it’s a strong recommend from us.

you can find more about Tyler here: https://theoriginaltylerwest.com/

and Giffords Circus here: https://giffordscircus.com/

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In this episode of The 5 O’ Clock Apron Podcast Claire cooks paneer curry with the author Nikesh Shukla. Nikesh has recently written the new Marvel Spider-Man India and has also written books for children and young adults. Nikesh has just moved house and has the builders in, so Claire and Nikesh meet at producer Ellen’s house to record this cookery conversation. It’s a moving one from the get-go with Nikesh instructing Claire that “we will be following an old family recipe, passed down from my dear mother”, the recording starts off with an enormous responsibility to get things exactly right, from shopping to chopping to the finished dish. Make Nikesh’s mum’s recipe for paneer curry and learn her failsafe rice cooking method. This is a moving episode that explores grief and cookery, Nikesh remembering his mum cooking and shouting from the kitchen at his teenage self up his bedroom in their house in Harrow. Listen too for the remarkable story of Nikesh’s uncle who was the first person to bring a case under the 1968 Race Relations Act and in doing so meets Malcom X in a curry house in Selly Oak.

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Find out more about Nikesh here: Nikesh - The Good Literary Agency

Find out more about Spiderman India here: Meet Pavitr Prabhakar, AKA Spider-Man: India | Marvel

Find out more about Nikesh's uncle here: Why diverse stories matter | Nikesh Shukla | TEDxLondon (youtube.com)

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