When was the last time you asked a good friend about where he came from, or the influences that shaped his life? On this episode of Paternal, Nick welcomes longtime friend and noted New Jersey-based DJ Shawn Francis to discuss his father’s alcohol and drug abuse, what The Talk meant to him and what it’s like to raise two African-American kids in Donald Trump’s America. 

Learn more about Paternal and sign up for our newsletter at www.paternalpodcast.com. You can also email host Nick Firchau at [email protected] with any comments or suggestions for men he should profile on the show. Make sure you subscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts or wherever you’re listening, then keep an eye on your feed for new episodes.