How good are you at navigating? You know, with a map – or Google Maps, more commonly – from the passenger seat of the car. Can you stay calm? Can you elicit calm in the driver? Do you regularly f*ck up and have to apologise for meandering down country roads? You'll be shocked to know that one of us thinks we're a great navigator! And one of us knows we're not. One of us likes to navigate themselves. (One of us likes to direct everyone else.) One of us, too (bizarrely) seems to be advocating for the return of the paper map (serious Boomer vibes). Plus, some serious throwing under the bus of one of our parents (probably not the one you think).

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Not Without My Sister is presented by sisters Beatrice Mac Cabe and Rosemary Mac Cabe, in Fort Wayne, Indiana. This episode was edited by Tall Tales, talltales.ie. Sound and original music by Don Kirkland. Original illustration by Lindsay Neilson. Not Without My Sister is a member of The Warren, the home of great Irish podcasts.

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