Katie Dalebout and Serena Wolf have embraced vulnerability when it comes to living with anxiety. They’re the hosts of Spiraling, dubbed an “optimistic” anxiety podcast, and they talk openly with me about what it means for them to live with anxiety, how they cultivate awareness around their mental health, and what strategies they’ve developed (or are in the process of developing) to manage day-to-day moments with anxiety. This episode features tons of laughs and relatable moments of anxiety real talk