Brenda J and Karen W interview Leslie Vernick, Author of The Emotionally Destructive Marriage. Leslie is also a well known speaker, counselor, and social worker against abuse. They dive deep into a discussion on her book. Leslie explains emotional abuse and the discussion is so powerful, deep, and educational, that you just have to listen and take it all in. 

https://leslievernick.com

https://hangingontohope.org