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In this powerful and unfiltered episode Brenda J and Karen B are joined by two special guests, Jessica and Mandy, for an honest discussion reflecting on Episodes 1 through 4 of the explosive new docuseries, The Religion Business And The Nonprofit Goliath, which premiered July 10th. Together they unpack jaw-dropping moments, emotional truths, and deeply personal reactions to the themes of control, power, manipulation, and spiritual abuse revealed in the series. You'll be fascinated to hear how each guest brings a unique perspective, and how the series impacted everyone in such different and personal ways.  

https://hangingontohope.org

Docuseries and app Now Available! For a discount click:

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In this powerful and unfiltered episode Brenda J and Karen B are joined by two special guests, Jessica and Mandy, for an honest discussion reflecting on Episodes 1 through 4 of the explosive new docuseries, The Religion Business And The Nonprofit Goliath, which premiered July 10th. Together they unpack jaw-dropping moments, emotional truths, and deeply personal reactions to the themes of control, power, manipulation, and spiritual abuse revealed in the series. You'll be fascinated to hear how each guest brings a unique perspective, and how the series impacted everyone in such different and personal ways.  

https://hangingontohope.org

Docuseries and app Now Available! For a discount click:

https://www.thereligionbusiness.com/purchase/HOTH42

In this powerful and unfiltered episode Brenda J and Karen B are joined by two special guests, Jessica and Mandy, for an honest discussion reflecting on Episodes 1 through 4 of the explosive new docuseries, The Religion Business And The Nonprofit Goliath, which premiered July 10th. Together they unpack jaw-dropping moments, emotional truths, and deeply personal reactions to the themes of control, power, manipulation, and spiritual abuse revealed in the series. You'll be fascinated to hear how each guest brings a unique perspective, and how the series impacted everyone in such different and personal ways.  

https://hangingontohope.org

In this inspiring episode, Brenda sits down with Karen for a heartfelt episode that will encourage any woman that has walked through pain, loss, or disappointment. Karen shares a part of her healing journey-and a special announcement that's sure to give hope to anyone. This episode is for every woman who needs a reminder: don't give up. Healing is possible. Your story isn't over. There is always hope!

https://hangingontohope.org

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Brenda J and Karen B unpack Episode 1 of the new docuseries, The Religion Business And The Nonprofit Goliath, which premiered on July 10th. In this conversation, they reflect on the key moments, themes, and takeaways from the first episode. They also share their thoughts on the Broken Shepherds app. Their prayer is it will bring light and truth and much needed change to a broken system. For more info, a discount on the docuseries, or to access the free app click below:

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https://hangingontohope.org

Docuseries and app Now Available! For a discount click:

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Brenda J and Karen W interview Nathan Apffel, two time Emmy Award winning film director who is releasing a docuseries called The Religion Business and an app called Broken Shepherds on July 10, 2025. He bought the  domain, The Religion Business, and started asking pastors about their salaries and where their money was going. He started at age 28, and after 12 years of no accountability or transparency, finished his 7 part docuseries and app that is about to change the world. In this episode, Nathan answers if Jesus talks about acquiring great wealth in the Gospels. He also explains how we have enough resources to solve global issues and how he trying to get these churches to take an outward approach instead of being insular. Nathan's app rates nonprofits and churches based on transparency of their finances and salaries so donors are educated about who they are giving their money to. For more info or to get a discounted price on the documentary click below:

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https://hangingontohope.org

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Brenda J and Karen W interview Nathan Apffel, two time Emmy Award winning film director who is releasing a docuseries called The Religion Business and an app called Broken Shepherds on July 10, 2025. He bought the  domain, The Religion Business, and started asking pastors about their salaries and where their money was going. He started at age 28, and after 12 years of no accountability or transparency, finished his 7 part docuseries and app that is about to change the world. In this episode, Nathan talks about Sister Rosemary of Uganda and uses her as an example to follow for churches and nonprofits. He explains that if a church is run like a business, we could use our money to help the less fortunate. Nathan's app rates nonprofits and churches based on transparency of their finances and salaries so donors are educated about who they are giving their money to. For more info or to get a discounted price on the documentary click below:

https://www.thereligionbusiness.com/purchase/HOTH42

https://hangingontohope.org

Brenda J and Karen W interview Nathan Apffel, two time Emmy Award winning film director who is releasing a docuseries called The Religion Business and an app called Broken Shepherds on July 10, 2025. He bought the  domain, The Religion Business, and started asking pastors about their salaries and where their money was going. He started at age 28, and after 12 years of no accountability or transparency, finished his 7 part docuseries and app that is about to change the world. In this episode, Nathan talks about how and why the IRS will not intervene to help resolve these abusive loopholes in the system. Nathan talks more in detail about his app which should be available any day to the public.  Nathan's app rates nonprofits and churches based on transparency of their finances and salaries so donors are educated about who they are giving their money to. For more info or to get a discounted price on the documentary click below:

https://www.thereligionbusiness.com/purchase/HOTH42

https://hangingontohope.org

For a discount on the docuseries premiering July 10th click:

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Brenda J and Karen W interview Nathan Apffel, two time Emmy Award winning film director who is releasing a docuseries called The Religion Business and an app called Broken Shepherds on July 10, 2025. Nathan tells his story of how he grew up attending a Megachurch in California but when he became a director and started traveling the world started to question religion and tithe. He bought the  domain, The Religion Business, and started asking pastors about their salaries and where their money was going. He started at age 28, and after 12 years of no accountability or transparency, finished his 7 part docuseries and app that is about to change the world. After researching and discovering that over a trillion dollars a year is tithed to churches, he learned that less than 6% is actually going outside the walls of the church. Nathan's app rates nonprofits and churches based on transparency of their finances and salaries so donors are educated about who they are giving their money to. For more info or to get a discounted price on the documentary click below:

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https://hangingontohope.org

Brenda J and Karen Wonder interview Chuck Degroat, a therapist, professor, spiritual director, and author of When Narcissism Comes to Church. They take a deep dive into understanding narcissism and he explains in detail the difference and importance between being diagnosed with Narcissistic Personality Disorder and having narcissistic characteristics. They also discuss the healing process for  victims of narcissistic abuse. A must listen..an extremely educational and informative podcast.

https://chuckdegroat.net