While secular journalists, scholars, and even the Pope are wrestling with big questions about Artificial Intelligence, the war in the Middle East, and what it means to be truly human, the Southern Baptists have decided the most urgent problem in 2026 is banning women from preaching. Phil asks why evangelicals are still fixated on issues from 50 years ago, while other Christian traditions are leading the culture in tackling modern questions. Zachary Wagner, author of "Men of Virtue," joins Skye and Kaitlyn for a roundup of masculine news. Wagner says the excesses of some expressions of feminism have fueled a subculture of male grievance, and that a pagan vision of masculinity is now masquerading as Christian throughout the manosphere. Also this week, nuns are challenging the tech giants, and Google wants permission to "debug" Florida.

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0:00 - Intro

2:58 - Theme Song

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5:48 - Google Mosquitos!

11:27 - Nuns Pressuring A.I.!

14:48 - A.I. Misconduct and Sin

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22:49 - Frozen in the Cold War

46:22 - Interview

48:40 - Aspirational Masculinity

59:13 - Are the Fruit of the Spirit Gendered?

1:10:28 - Unified by Antifeminism

1:26:50 - End Credits

Links Mentioned in News Segment:

Google's Literal Debugging: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jun/01/google-permission-release-mosquitoes-california-florida

Catholic Nuns and Palantir A.I.

https://religionnews.com/2026/06/03/catholic-sisters-push-palantir-on-human-rights-as-faith-leaders-rally-in-new-york/

A.I. and Sin

https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/2026/06/pope-leo-ai-christian/687388/

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Men of Virtue: How the Fruit of the Spirit Forms Male Character in the Modern World (A Guide for Men Seeking Biblical Masculinity, Perfect Father's Day Gift) by Zachary Wagner: https://amzn.to/4uZRL9o

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