“I was a 22-year-old Wall Street Journal reporter. One of my first stories, I went to go interview a businessman. He locked the door of his office and took of his clothes and stripped to his underwear.”

I promise, this episode does have something to do with money, a lot in fact. My guest today is Joanne Lipman, author of That's What She Said: What Men Need to Know (And Women Need to Tell Them) About Working Together.

Joanne began her career as a Wall Street Journal intern and spent 20 years working there as a journalist. She's also a former editor-in-chief of USA Today. Her book is about workplace equality. For the first time, it is a book that encourages men to become an integral part of the conversation, instead of ostracizing them, or blaming them for the problems that we have today.

We'll talk about the genesis for this book (It happened on an airplane.)Easy low-hanging fruit solutions how we can improve gender equality in the workplace.Being raised by depression-era parents and hustling it in her early 20s as a journalist in New York City.More about Joanne: She is one of the nation’s leading journalists. She most recently was Chief Content Officer of Gannett and Editor-in-Chief of USA TODAY and the USA TODAY NETWORK, comprising the flagship publication plus 109 local newspapers including the Detroit Free Press, the Des Moines Register, and the Arizona Republic. In that role, she oversaw more than 3,000 journalists and led the organization to three Pulitzer prizes.