This episode's interview with Sara is about two therapists – one who was too friendly, and another who wasn't friendly enough. What should therapists consider before using risky interventions such as guilt, self-disclosure, or icy behavior? We try to answer these questions and more as we go back down the rabbit hole of using service-dominant logic to make therapy more effective.

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Introduction: 0:00 – 9:23

Part One: 9:23 – 47:16

Part Two: 47:16 – 1:25:00

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Show Notes:

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• I found the latest episode of "Very Bad Therapy" to be pretty offensive and absurd and I'm curious to hear other's thoughts on it. (Reddit)