This time Rob interviews Martha Awojobi, who two years ago changed the focus of her career from fundraising to anti-racism consultancy for the charity sector. One of Martha’s many achievements is leading the ground-breaking BAME Online fundraising conference. This wide-ranging discussion includes the extra energy you get from becoming clear on your values; tips on how to be brave; and reasons why progress with anti-racism work in our sector has so far been so hard. Martha also shares a sneak peak at some of the exciting sessions coming up in the next BAME Online Conference. If you want to share this episode or get in touch, Martha and I would love to hear from you – we’re both on Linked In, and on twitter Martha is @MarthaAwojobi and I’m @woods_rob.