In Part Four of my conversation with Major General Terry “Max” Haston, Max breaks down what actually happened in Iraq and Afghanistan, what “winning” really means (spoiler: it’s not what politicians sell you), and the mess inside our own government that most people never see.

We also go straight at the chaos happening in our cities, the rise of protests, the tech-fueled madness taking over this country, and why discipline, leadership, and actual parenting matter more than anyone seems willing to admit.

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