What happens after you leave a business you built? How do you relate to work, money, systems, and your nervous system when your entire identity has changed?

In Part 2 of our conversation with Erika Tebbens, we go deeper—into the murky middle of business ethics, entrepreneurship under capitalism, and how we’re operating in the political climate of 2025.

We talk about the ethics of selling transformation, why systems don’t always equal support, and what Erika has learned about nervous system safety outside the online business bubble. This episode is full of those “I’ve been thinking this but no one’s saying it” moments, plus a little bit of righteous rage and some gentle reminders that you’re allowed to do things differently.

Whether you’re reimagining your business, your systems, or your relationship to capitalism itself, this episode will give you plenty to think about—and maybe even a little relief.

In this episode:

* What happens to your identity after entrepreneurship

* How to design systems that support your actual nervous system (not just your productivity)

* The uncomfortable truth about selling transformation online

* Why the ethics of business can’t be separated from capitalism

* What real resourcing looks like—beyond time freedom or self-employment

* Why Erika feels more supported working in an organization than she did solo

About our Guest

Erika Tebbens | Book — You've Got This: A Counterintuitive Guide to Powerful Inevitable Change-Making

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