In the last episode, Seth and Tsh chatted about what makes the art we love fall-ish. They continue the chat to talk about the flip side of that coin: what makes the creating of that art fall-ish? Art is a HUGE table here — yes, there’s writing and music-making, but there’s also homemaking, neighborliness, and doing our work well as forms of artistic expression. What does it look like to do these things in the autumnal season? What does it look like to live sacramentally as the leaves drop?

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• The All of It, by Jeannette Haien


• The Way Down documentary series

Stuff has a season, and that includes art. What makes music, movies, books, and visual art fall-ish? Seth and Tsh each share musicians, writers, and visual artists they’re digging as the temps dip and the colors change. Living sacramentally naturally includes living seasonally, so it makes sense to also shift what we read, watch, and listen to as the seasons change.

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• Black Keys’ Delta Kream


• Typhoon’s Sympathetic Magic and Offerings


• Damien Rice’s My Favourite Faded Fantasy


• Andrew Belle’s Nightshade and Black Bear


• Cloud Cuckoo Land, by Anthony Doerr


• Gerard Manley Hopkins’ poems


• Sherlock Holmes, by Arthur Conan Doyle


• Sherlock Holmes on audiobook, read by Stephen Fry


• A Hidden Life, by Terrence Malick


• The Modern Saints, by Grace Morbitzer

If we knew then what we know now, would we be better off? Or is there something redeemable about the mistakes we all make when we’re younger? Seth and Tsh answer a listener question about any wisdom they might have for their slightly younger listeners — if they were in their twenties right now, this is what their forty-something selves would tell themselves.

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• The new season of The Great British Bake-Off


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Continuing the conversation about screens, what does it look like in our homes to live sacramentally in a culture immersed in the digital world? There’s no one easy answer. Seth and Tsh, both parents of teens and tweens, talk with Erin Loechner about what this looks like for her, as a mom to three younger children.

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• Erin Loechner’s website, Design for Mankind


• Erin’s recent essay, Who We Follow


• The Tech-Wise Family, by Andy Crouch


• Digital Minimalism, by Cal Newport


• The Sober Lush, by Amanda Eyre Ward and Jardine Libaire


• East of Eden’s introduction, by John Steinbeck


• Munk Debates

Seth and Tsh start a two-part conversation about what Seth is learning from a month-long digital detox (Tsh takes one every July, too, so she has her own experiences). What does it mean as writers and creators? Is it even possible to do good, profitable work and not be on social media? In short: what inconveniences are we willing to trade for a more beautiful life?

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• Digital Minimalism and Deep Work, by Cal Newport


• The Storm is Upon Us, by Mike Rothschild


• Adorning the Dark and God of the Garden, by Andrew Peterson


• Axel Vervoordt: Wabi Inspirations, by Tatsuro Miki

Buon venerdì! Seth and Tsh finally spill the beans… They’re leading a pilgrimage next summer to Italy, and EVERYONE is invited. Yep — that means you and your friends! They’d love to journey with you to a slice of land that’s not only known for its art and beauty, but it knows how to do beauty well. Tuscany is steeped in an artful way of life, and it’s one of their favorite places in the world. From the art to the architecture to the food to the farming to the people and the slower pace of life… Pilgrimage to Italy next summer to experience the via pulchritudinis.

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• Silence in the Age of Noise, by Erling Kragg


• It’s Not Fall, Folks on Spotify + Stockbridge candle from Laurel Mercantile

When you grow up hearing that this world will one day fade away, it’s hard to reconcile why, then, there’s so much astounding beauty everywhere. Seth and Tsh unpack why our invisible souls aren’t the only things that matter. (Gnosticism is still around, folks.)

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• Elizabeth Barrett Browning’s blackberries


• As Kingfishers Catch Fire, by Gerard Manley Hopkins


• God’s Grandeur, by Gerard Manley Hopkins

In this episode, Seth and Tsh pull on the thread they started weaving earlier this year, practicing the art and habit of noticing the everyday beauty around them. (After all, it’s not optional if we want to live a sacramental life.) As always — as a listener, you’re invited to nod along and notice your own as well. Join in this time-tested practice!

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• No Fear Shakespeare: Hamlet


• Hamlet on YouTube: David Tennant, Benedict Cumberbatch, Andrew Scott


• Strange Brew


• Mozart’s Requiem


• Andrew Peterson


• Vivian Maier’s A Photographer Found


• Eva to Ave by Santa Clara Design


• Virgin Mary, by Sr. Maria Innocentia Hummel


• Ambience videos on YouTube

The books we read in childhood have the power to transform us lifelong. So what do we do with the classics that are so good yet have those problematic bits because they’re products of their era? Do we avoid giving our kids these great works because they don’t reflect everything we believe in? Seth and Tsh are joined by fellow writer Mitali Perkins, who has passionate thoughts about why what we read in childhood matters. Her own immigrant story was steeped in stories.

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• Mitali Perkins: Twitter | Instagram | Website


• Mitali’s new book, Steeped in Stories: Bookshop | Amazon


• The Chair on Netflix


• Digital Minimalism, by Cal Newport


• The Book of Waking Up, by Seth


• Why Art Matters, by Alistair Gordon


• A Nature Poem for Every Day of the Year (and Night), by Jane McMorland Hunter

There’s a purity to our childhood perspectives, and if we’re quiet enough, we can still hear them whisper to us. What do our first experiences with beauty, goodness, and truth tell us about what’s really there? Seth helps Tsh unpack a process he’s recently experienced as he listened to his nine-year-old self.

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• The Lord of the Rings, by J.R.R. Tolkien


• The Philosophy of Tolkien, by Peter Kreeft


• Drew Binsky on YouTube


• The Summer of Helga, by Seth


• The Suns We Orbit: Lessons Learned From Leaving the Church, by Seth