We all have a liturgy to our lives, even if we don't call it that. So why bother with one that's old and global, too? Since Advent is the start of a new liturgical year, Seth and Tsh unpack what the calendar is and why it matters. Not so much a deep dive, this chat is more of a high-level perspective on why it's good to lean into a rhythm for marking time outside of ourselves.

• Seth's newsletter + website


• Tsh's newsletter + website


• Tsh's 2022 Gift Guide


• Pick up a round of drinks!


• Our recommended reads


• A 101 on Advent


• Tsh's Advent book, Shadow & Light


• The Liturgical Year, by Joan Chittister


• Living the Christian Year, by Bobby Gross


• Sounding the Seasons, by Malcolm Guite


• The Comfort Crisis, by Michael Easter


• Madison Cunningham

Seth is joined by Myles Werntz, a professor of theology, and in this chat they unpack what's meant by community, a word we toss around a lot in our culture. What's the real difference between in-person and virtual communities? What do screens provide a community when they're needed, and what do they rob us of when they're not? And what's the takeaway for our day-to-day lives?

p.s. - Seth & Tsh will be back together next episode!

• Seth's newsletter + website


• Pick up a round of drinks!


• Our recommended reads


• Myles' Substack


• Myles on Twitter


• Myles' book, From Isolation to Community


• The Brothers K, by David James Duncan


• The Candy House, by Jennifer Egan

Tsh is joined by a good friend — her husband, Kyle! A late-night conversation, they reflect on how travel has affected their 20-year marriage and why you (yes, you!) should join them next summer in Ireland. ☘️

• Tsh's newsletter + website


• Pick up a round of drinks!


• Our recommended reads


• Create your Rule of Life


• Come to Ireland!


• Somebody Feed Phil in Ireland

Both adult Catholic converts from a lifetime of Protestantism, Seth and Tsh each could do a 12-part series on why they swam the Tiber. In this chat, Seth unpacks with Tsh just a few items in his backpack worn on his journey to the Church. If you’re curious about what compelled him to walk this path, this episode’s for you.

• Seth's Newsletter + Website


• Tsh's newsletter + website


• Pick up a round of drinks!


• Our recommended reads


• Create your Rule of Life


• Part 1 of Tsh’s journey to the Church ​


• Seth’s books: Coming Clean and The Book of Waking Up 


• Hipbillies, by Jared Phillips


• Tsh’s Cozy Autumn playlist

More and more folks are talking about the ills of social media, but the platforms remain hugely popular (and addictive). Seth asks Tsh about her recent decision to leave Instagram even though "they" say writers should be there if they want to sell books. She was willing to leave her large-ish following and decade-plus feed for something better — and she has zero regrets.

• Seth's Newsletter + Website


• Tsh's newsletter + website


• Pick up a round of drinks!


• Our recommended reads


• Tsh's micro.blog


• Confessions, by St. Augustine (Sarah Ruden's translation)

What does it mean to be a man or a woman? And just as important in today's culture, how do we have civil, truthful, loving conversations about that topic? Seth and Tsh are joined by author and professor Abigail Favale to talk about those things. She's written a book that's taking off like wildfire about one of the most pressing questions of the day — who are we as men and women?

• Seth's Newsletter + Website


• Tsh's newsletter + website


• Pick up a round of drinks!


• Our recommended reads


• The Genesis of Gender, by Abigail Favale


• Abigail on Twitter


• Abigail's free video series, Cultivating Catholic Feminism


• Endeavour


• Father Elijah: An Apocalypse, by Michael D. O'Brien


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We're back! Seth and Tsh recap Italy, but don't worry, it's not done in a way that bores you if you weren't there... They reflect on why it's always true that ordinary conversations with new friends over gelato are more meaningful than touring even the most jaw-dropping cathedrals and monasteries (though that's great, too). They also share recorded thoughts from some of the folks who joined them in Italy.

We're all made for in-person connection, and this is why having a drink with a friend at your neighborhood cafe matters so much.

• Seth's Newsletter + Website


• Tsh's newsletter + website


• Pick up a round of drinks!


• Our recommended reads


• The Genesis of Gender, by Abigail Favale


• CS Lewis’ space/Ransom trilogy: Out of the Silent Planet, Perelandra, and That Hideous Strength

It's good to remember the good things in life, especially when the news is heavy (when is ever not anymore, right?). And since art has a season, Seth and Tsh share their summery music, movies, TV shows, and books they're into right now. Because good art tells good stories, even when they're lighthearted.

Also: it's time for their annual summer break! Seth and Tsh will return in mid-August — in the meantime, enjoy the treasure trove of Drink archives, listen to other good shows, or just take a break and go outside.

• Seth's Newsletter + Website


• Tsh's newsletter + website


• Pick up a round of drinks


• Come to Italy with us — next month!


• Our recommended reads


• Magnolia Workshops


• The Collection's Entropy album


• Michael & Michelle


• Tsh's Summer 2022 playlist


• Sean Hayes


• Thor: Love and Thunder


• 1971: The Year That Music Changed Everything


• The Hood Internet — top songs from each year


• The Genesis of Gender, by Abigail Favale


• A Curious Faith, by Lore Ferguson


• Sea of Tranquility, by Emily St. John Mandel


• Leisure: the Basis of Culture, by Josef Pieper


• In Other Words, by Jhumpa Lahiri

Tsh talks to her good friend, Sarah Mackenzie, about what makes good stories (especially for our kids). She's got a HUGE new project in the works: not only a new children's book, but a new publishing house! When it's hard to publish new classics that tell timeless truths, you gotta start the company yourself. Why do we need more stories that tell us things that were as true a thousand years ago as they are today? Listen in.

• Tsh's newsletter + website


• Pick up a round of drinks


• Come to Italy with us — next month!


• Our recommended reads


• Sarah Mackenzie's work: Read-Aloud Revival & Waxwing Books


• A Little More Beautiful, Sarah's forthcoming picture book


• Julia Cameron's morning pages


• Ira Glass' The Gap


• Tomie DePaola


• Breaking Bread With The Dead, by Alan Jacobs


• Breezy Brookshire on Instagram


• Miss Rumphius, by Barbara Cooney


• You Can Draw in 30 Days, by Mark Kistler


• I Miss My Cafe + The Hole & Corner playlist

It's now Tsh's turn to update us on her six-month challenge: what she's learned living as best she can in a 100-mile radius. She and Seth talk about the importance of subsidiarity, reorienting our priorities, finding community IN an actual community (vs. online), and doing it all imperfectly. Is living locally worth the effort? Tsh has thoughts.

• Seth: Newsletter | Website


• Tsh: Newsletter | Website


• Pick up a round of drinks


• Come to Italy with us


• Our recommended reads


• Seth's challenge: 6 months away from social media


• The Life We’re Looking For, by Andy Crouch


• Free online classes from Hillsdale College — Tsh is taking Aristotle's Ethics


• Man and His Symbols, by Carl Jung