In this episode Fr. Bill’s guest Dr. Ian McCabe explores Bill Wilson’s spiritual experience in Towns Hospital as well as Bill’s prior spiritual encounters that Bill often referred to as an experience of “the Presence.” The discussion sheds clarity on the goal of recovery which is not the elimination of EGO but bringing the EGO into RIGHT RELATIONSHIP with the GREATER SELF.

Show Notes:

Carl Jung and Alcoholics Anonymous by Ian McCabe

Bill W: My First 40 Years

“When (Roman Emperor) Marcus Aurelius gazed upon a bottle of the exquisite Falernian wine, therefore, he would remind himself that it was merely fermented grape juice, and that the fine meat dishes set before him were just the corpses of fish, birds, and pigs…”  (Meditations, 6.13).