Chezwick, the 16th person to complete the Eastern Continental Trail and the 5th person to complete the Great Western Loop, takes a load off and sits down with Doc to talk trail.  During the discussion, the two range wide and far, covering topics like the state bird of Oregon, the Pyramid of Pain, unique uses for toothpaste in the Himalayas, trail romances ending badly, Doc Campbell's Outpost, Type III fun, and No One and Nothing. You won't believe your ears.

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