We're using a framework for life transitions Ilana mentions in a later episode by ⁠Bruce Feiler⁠:

- The Long Goodbye: where they mourn the "old" relationship

- The Messy Middle: in which they shed old habits and create new ones

- The New Beginning: in which they live into the new version of their relationship

Grab your tissues. This series is a tear-jerker.

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As Long As I'm Living is a podcast about life, love, and laughter after infant loss. Judith and Alina are rebuilding Happier Ever After one day at a time despite excruciating grief and trauma and offering support to grievers of all flavors, but especially those who have lost a baby to SIDS, infant death, birth accidents, stillbirth, TFMR, ectopic pregnancy, or miscarriage.