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🎖️ **Royal Marine Commando Ben Ford** (software engineer, Haskell/category theory) joins *No Way Out* to expose the **OODA loop myth** most AI devs still believe.
🔥 **Agentic AI runs John Boyd’s *real* OODA** — not the linear "observe-orient-decide-act" cartoon.
🔴 **LLMs are evolutionary dead-ends**: text-in, text-out, no destruction & creation, no real-time model updates.
🟢 **Active inference AI = fractal OODA**: destroys old models, creates new ones *every cycle* — at 1/1000th the energy.
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🧠 **KEY BREAKDOWNS**
• **Orientation = the entire loop** (neuroscience + category theory proof)
• **Unfolding circumstances = affordances in 4D space-time** (Wardley Maps + spatial web)
• **Destruction & Creation = Active Inference** (FEP, Markov blankets, low-energy dominance)
• **Why Scrum fails, exploration wins** (knowledge *of* vs. knowledge *about*)
• **2026 AI forecast**: edge-device FEP agents, Verses AI, LLMs obsolete.
💬 **QUOTE**
> “LLMs are linear OODA. Active inference is *fractal* OODA. The difference? Real-time destruction and creation.” — **Ben Ford**
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🚀 **No Way Out Podcast** – Where Marines, AI devs, and systems thinkers decode dominance.
#OODA #AgenticAI #JohnBoyd #ActiveInference #FreeEnergyPrinciple
💬 **QUOTE**
> “LLMs are linear OODA. Active inference is *fractal* OODA. The difference? Real-time dest
John R. Boyd's Conceptual Spiral was originally titled No Way Out. In his own words:
“There is no way out unless we can eliminate the features just cited. Since we don’t know how to do this, we must continue the whirl of reorientation…”
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John Boyd’s Conceptual Spiral was originally titled “No Way Out.” In his words:
“There is no way out unless we can eliminate the features just cited. Since we don’t know how to do this, we must continue the whirl of reorientation…”Download a complete transcript of Conceptual Spiral for free by clicking here.
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🎖️ **Royal Marine Commando Ben Ford** (software engineer, Haskell/category theory) joins *No Way Out* to expose the **OODA loop myth** most AI devs still believe.
🔥 **Agentic AI runs John Boyd’s *real* OODA** — not the linear "observe-orient-decide-act" cartoon.
🔴 **LLMs are evolutionary dead-ends**: text-in, text-out, no destruction & creation, no real-time model updates.
🟢 **Active inference AI = fractal OODA**: destroys old models, creates new ones *every cycle* — at 1/1000th the energy.
---
🧠 **KEY BREAKDOWNS**
• **Orientation = the entire loop** (neuroscience + category theory proof)
• **Unfolding circumstances = affordances in 4D space-time** (Wardley Maps + spatial web)
• **Destruction & Creation = Active Inference** (FEP, Markov blankets, low-energy dominance)
• **Why Scrum fails, exploration wins** (knowledge *of* vs. knowledge *about*)
• **2026 AI forecast**: edge-device FEP agents, Verses AI, LLMs obsolete.
💬 **QUOTE**
> “LLMs are linear OODA. Active inference is *fractal* OODA. The difference? Real-time destruction and creation.” — **Ben Ford**
---
🚀 **No Way Out Podcast** – Where Marines, AI devs, and systems thinkers decode dominance.
#OODA #AgenticAI #JohnBoyd #ActiveInference #FreeEnergyPrinciple
💬 **QUOTE**
> “LLMs are linear OODA. Active inference is *fractal* OODA. The difference? Real-time dest
John R. Boyd's Conceptual Spiral was originally titled No Way Out. In his own words:
“There is no way out unless we can eliminate the features just cited. Since we don’t know how to do this, we must continue the whirl of reorientation…”
A promotional message for Ember Health. Safe and effective IV ketamine care for individuals seeking relief from depression. Ember Health's evidence-based, partner-oriented, and patient-centered care model, boasting an 84% treatment success rate with 44% of patients reaching depression remission. It also mentions their extensive experience with over 40,000 infusions and treatment of more than 2,500 patients, including veterans, first responders, and individuals with anxiety and PTSD
John Boyd’s Conceptual Spiral was originally titled “No Way Out.” In his words:
“There is no way out unless we can eliminate the features just cited. Since we don’t know how to do this, we must continue the whirl of reorientation…”Download a complete transcript of Conceptual Spiral for free by clicking here.
Stay connected with No Way Out and The Whirl Of ReOrientation
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