The TechEd Podcast

AI Is Coming for the Measurers, Not the Builders


Listen Later

What jobs will AI replace, and which ones will become more valuable?

Matthew Prince, co-founder and CEO of Cloudflare, recently wrote an op-ed in The Wall Street Journal about how he chose which employees to replace with AI. His argument: AI is not coming equally for every role. It's coming first for the people inside organizations who measure, report, analyze, audit, manage, and process information.

In this solo episode of The TechEd Podcast, Matt Kirchner responds to Prince’s article and examines what it reveals about the future of work. Drawing on Peter Drucker’s framework of builders, sellers, and measurers, Matt breaks down why some jobs are likely to be heavily disrupted while others may become even more valuable.

The uncomfortable truth: AI may reduce the need for many traditional middle management, finance, operations, and measurement-heavy roles. But it also increases the value of people who create products, build relationships, solve customer problems, lead change, and turn technology into business value.

From sales and engineering to marketing, STEM education, data science, and applied AI, this episode explores where human talent still matters most, and what businesses, educators, and professionals need to do now to prepare for the next phase of workforce disruption.

5 Big Takeaways from this Episode:

1. Businesses need to start their AI journey now. AI is already changing how companies operate, compete, hire, and structure their teams. Organizations that have not assigned someone to understand how AI will disrupt their business, market, or institution are already behind.

2. Measurers and mid-level managers will be disrupted the most. Roles centered on reporting, processing, auditing, analyzing, tracking, and managing information are increasingly vulnerable to AI. The opportunity is not to ignore that disruption, but to become the person who knows how to use AI to do that work better, faster, and more strategically.

3. Personal relationships become more important in the AI age, not less. AI can automate parts of sales, marketing, and customer engagement, but it cannot earn trust the way people do. Sellers who understand customer needs, build relationships, solve problems, and use data intelligently will remain critical to business growth.

4. Creativity and leadership still rule the day. AI gives more people access to the same tools, but it does not replace the ability to see opportunity, connect ideas, build a brand, lead change, or execute a vision. In marketing, business leadership, product strategy, and innovation, creative and decisive people will continue to create value.

5. The future belongs to builders. Engineers, skilled tradespeople, manufacturing talent, STEM professionals, automation specialists, and applied AI practitioners are positioned to become even more important. If AI makes builders more productive, companies will need more of them, not fewer, especially in fields tied to physical AI, robotics, smart manufacturing, autonomous systems, drones, and the edge-to-cloud continuum

Resources in this Episode:

Read Matthew Prince's op-ed in the Wall Street Journal: "How I Choose Which Cloudflare Employees to Replace With AI"

Episode page: https://techedpodcast.com/cloudflare/

We want to hear from you! Send us a text.

Instagram - Facebook - YouTube - TikTok - Twitter - LinkedIn

...more
View all episodesView all episodes
Download on the App Store

The TechEd PodcastBy Matt Kirchner

  • 5
  • 5
  • 5
  • 5
  • 5

5

42 ratings


More shows like The TechEd Podcast

View all
The Ben Shapiro Show by The Daily Wire

The Ben Shapiro Show

153,326 Listeners

The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe by The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe

The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe

41,380 Listeners

Pivot by New York Magazine

Pivot

9,646 Listeners

Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast by Fantasy Football

Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast

29,554 Listeners

Talking Real Money - Investing Talk by Don McDonald

Talking Real Money - Investing Talk

790 Listeners

The Daily by The New York Times

The Daily

112,194 Listeners

Up First from NPR by NPR

Up First from NPR

56,599 Listeners

The Indicator from Planet Money by NPR

The Indicator from Planet Money

9,531 Listeners

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway by Vox Media Podcast Network

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway

5,499 Listeners

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg by All-In Podcast, LLC

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

10,177 Listeners

Huberman Lab by Scicomm Media

Huberman Lab

29,255 Listeners

On with Kara Swisher by Vox Media

On with Kara Swisher

3,531 Listeners

Prof G Markets by Vox Media Podcast Network

Prof G Markets

1,488 Listeners

Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov by Vox Media Podcast Network

Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov

1,521 Listeners

The Ultimate Human with Gary Brecka by Gary Brecka

The Ultimate Human with Gary Brecka

3,089 Listeners