The evolution of the United States and China relationship has global ramifications. From the war in Ukraine and Asia Pacific security to climate change and economic growth, solutions to a host of global challenges could hinge on the ability of the world’s two superpowers to manage their differences constructively. Kevin Rudd, a former Australian prime minister who has studied, lived in, and worked with China for more than forty years, joins Council President Ivo Daalder to demystify both nations’ geopolitical objectives and consider what it will take to avoid a catastrophic conflict.

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