Anthony Plog on Music

I first met pianist Katharina Kegler in 1992 when I auditioned for the position of trumpet professor at the Freiburg Musik Hochschule. Katharina was assigned to me as the accompanist for the short concert I would have to play and, unbeknownst to me, it was her first service since being hired at the Hochschule. So over many year we have not only taught together, but also performed together, both in Germany and in Japan. During our many years together, I can't recall a time where I disagreed with any of her ideas on musicality or phrasing. Her judgement always just seemed so logical and deep. So in this interview I ask her a number of questions about musicality and phrasing, and was both surprised and delighted with her answers.

We begin Part 1 with my asking Katharina about her studies with Tibor Hazay (Freiburg Musik Hochschule) and John Perry (Rice University), two very different personalities and both very deep musicians. We then discuss the steps that Katharina goes through to learn a piece by Brahms (as an example), discussing how she builds her interpretation over time. She also explains why she's against students learning a piece by first listening to recordings.

For Contributing Listeners (Part 2): Katharina has spent a great many years not only playing chamber and solo literature, but also accompanying students. She has also worked at the Munich ARD competition, perhaps the world's most highly recognized solo competition, and so I ask her about the difference between accompanying college level students, the top players at the Munich competition, and finally, top professionals. We talk about her work with students, and end the conversation with Katharina as an entrepreneur with the work she put in to start the concert series, Musikfest Ebringen.

Trumpeter Dave Bilger has had a stellar career as both a performer and also as an educator. He was principal trumpet with the Dallas Symphony, and following that, principal trumpet with the Philadelphia Orchestra for many years. In addition to the 27 years he's taught at the Curtis Institute of Music, he's also Professor of Trumpet at the Northwestern University Bienen School of Music and has given master classes around the world.

As an example of how music can have a profound influence on a person’s, and even a family’s, life, we begin our conversation with my asking Dave about how he was able raise funds in order to bring Baset Azizi from Afghanistan to the United States and how that impacted not only Baset, but his family as well. Dave continues by talking about his two main teachers and their different approaches to teaching, David Hickman and Mark Gould... in addition to his week of study with Tom Stevens. As a student, Dave was a member of the summer student orchestra, the Colorado Philharmonic, and talks about what it was like to have Michael Sachs (principal trumpet, Cleveland Orchestra) and Doug Prosser (principal trumpet, Rochester Philharmonic) as room-mates during his second year. We end part one with an extended discussion of auditions, including musical preparation, mental approaches, and some current issues with the orchestral audition process.

Andreas Neubronner is a record producer and engineer who has won 8 Grammy awards. He has recorded great orchestras around the world and is known for his recordings of the Mahler Symphonies with the San Francisco Symphony Orchestra conducted by Michael Tilson Thomas, his work with Baroque and Renaissance ensembles, and piano soloists Murray Perahia and Igor Levit.

Andreas begins Part 1 talking about how he first came to work with Michael Tilson Thomas in London and his recordings of the Mahler cycle with the San Francisco Symphony. Using those sessions, Andreas gives an overview of how recordings are made, from the initial shipping of equipment and set-up, how live concerts are recorded, what a patch session is and how they're run (...and how much money each minute of the session costs!) Andreas also mentions some background of recording tech specifics, including how the human mind perceives stereo sound (and the difficulty of implementing 5.1 surround sound in an orchestral setting.) We end Part 1 with a discussion of Baroque music, and how performance practice has changed over the last 30-40 years.

In his thirty-eight years with the Utah Symphony, Nick Norton experienced all aspects of what it means to be an orchestral trumpet player. He began his career with the orchestra as second trumpet and after nine years auditioned for, and won, the newly vacated position of principal trumpet. Towards the end of his tenure with the orchestra, he moved to become a sort of roving section player. But in addition to his life as a trumpet player, Nick has also had a very full life outside of music which, among other things, involved preserving City Creek Canyon in Salt Lake City in its pristine state for the future. He is not only a good friend of mine, he is also a hero to me, a person with great integrity and honor (and also a great sense of humor... I can't recall a phone conversation with him where I didn't laugh.)

We begin our conversation with Nick talking about his audition for second trumpet in the Utah Symphony, his experience in that position, and then his audition for principal trumpet nine years later. Nick did about nine mock auditions for friends beforehand, and he speaks about how his poor showing in his last mock audition, and what he learned from it, helped him win the position with the Utah Symphony. Since he has played all positions in the trumpet section, I asked him about the different roles or goals of each trumpet seat in the orchestra and how to work well with a section. Nick also played principal trumpet with the Malmö Symphony in Sweden for a short period of time, so we talk about the differences in brass playing between an American and Swedish orchestra.

Bill Williams is a musician who has had a stellar career as a symphony musician, chamber musician, and soloist. But in addition to his performing, he is also a consultant with a wide range of clients, including elite performers and institutions, focusing on the tools needed to perform well consistently. On his website The Path to Optimal Performance, Bill deals with subjects such as stress and performance, practice, centering, and mental rehearsal. A great deal of our conversation revolves around the concept of how to deal with the vitally important mental aspects of performance.

In the Bonus Room we discuss Chad's book, "You Earned a Music Degree. Now What?" This is a book that offers many practical and usable suggestions for students graduating from college and wanting to pursue a career in music. It is indeed a working musicians field guide, and we cover many areas of the book. Students will find this part of the interview not only inspiring but very practical as well.

We begin Part 2 by talking about his time with the San Francisco Ballet and how conducting ballet is so different from conducting orchestras. From there we move on to the New World Symphony and the studying of scores in preparation for rehearsals and concerts, how much time is involved, and the strategy he has for score analysis.

Chad Goodman is, to quote Christina Wallace from Forbes Magazine, "an entrepreneur bringing innovation to classical music." In his young life, Chad has started his own ensemble, the Elevate Ensemble, worked with the San Francisco Symphony and San Francisco Ballet as a conductor, is a Conducting Fellow of the New World Symphony, and has recently been appointed as Music Director of the Elgin Symphony Orchestra. So how did he do all of this at such a young age? He gives a lot of clues and practical advice in his book: "You Earned a Music Degree. Now What?" It was a pleasure to speak with him about the many aspects of his career and life.

We begin by going back to the start of Chad's career, learning music and also learning the business of music. At a very young age, he founded the Elevate Ensemble. He talks about many of the different aspects of planning concerts, paying musicians, arranging concert venues, and the like. We trace his career to working with the San Francisco Symphony, assisting guest conductors, and how Manfred Honeck was such a profound influence on him.

In addition to their new jobs, Will and Carlos have had experiences performing with other major orchestras, such as the New York Philharmonic, the Philadelphia Orchestra, the St. Louis Symphony, and the London Symphony. Our talk then turns to the future, with Will talking about his work with the Vennture Mouthpiece company, and Carlos about training to become an Alexander Technique teacher.

We continue our conversation about experiences at Juilliard and then move on to their current jobs: Principal Trumpet with the Nashville Symphony and Principal Trombone with the New York City Ballet, and specifically what they experienced in their auditions for those two orchestras.