It was a good week to arguing about the state of television, with both Apple and Roku releasing new content delivery boxes. A trio of original Verge editors — Nilay Patel, Chris Ziegler, and Ross Miller — are joined by Helen Havlak in the Hype seat. In between heated debates about universal remotes and IR blasters, our Fab Four find time to talk about HTC's One A9 and — quite literally — toss around the new "drop-proof" Droid Turbo 2. Don't worry, you'll hear it.

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